T-Rexer Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) Blacksite Danger Zone map decompiled: Hammer will not run very smooth with this map! https://www.dropbox.com/s/54xq50stuexq0rd/dz_blacksite.vmf?dl=0 Sirocco Danger Zone map decompiled: Prop scaling on the oil pipes is wrong! https://www.dropbox.com/s/adhxouhualsksk4/dz_sirocco.vmf?dl=0 Edited May 1, 2019 by T-Rexer Fnugz, Skybex, leplubodeslapin and 19 others 21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That50'sGuy Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) I'm very interested to see how they made the detail sprites work in the map. I've been trying to get them to work for so long now. Thank you for this! Edited December 7, 2018 by I ♡ The 1950's TECHNICKER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
text_fish Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Thanks T-Rexer. For those who had the first same question as me: 20608 x 20608 It appears optimisation mostly comes down to a shit load of horizontal hint brushes? Unsurprisingly, in game the environment is a lot less detailed (at least on the small scale) than other recent maps such as Dust2 and Nuke. A lot of the interiors are CS:S quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavikov4 Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 5 hours ago, text_fish said: Thanks T-Rexer. For those who had the first same question as me: 20608 x 20608 It appears optimisation mostly comes down to a shit load of horizontal hint brushes? Unsurprisingly, in game the environment is a lot less detailed (at least on the small scale) than other recent maps such as Dust2 and Nuke. A lot of the interiors are CS:S quality. battleroyale quality TECHNICKER, Serialmapper and text_fish 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serialmapper Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 a shitload of new assets Klems, Squad and TECHNICKER 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectroSheep Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Yesh, I needed rocks TECHNICKER, Vaya, That50'sGuy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadsenFK Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 18 hours ago, ElectroSheep said: Yesh, I needed rocks Me too Vaya and TECHNICKER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaVaGe Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 Goddamnit, I want to make a map on this gamemode now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untor Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, CoconutDawg said: In relation to this map's textures (under the 'hr_massive' category in Hammer SDK) how does the four way blend or any blend work? I try to blend but it just adds more or takes away grass (the tall grass that looks like a sprite) and I try using the sculpt tool's 'Blend' option under the displacement settings but that does nothing as well. What's Valve's secret? I think Valve used not anounced tools. Or Valve used Sprinkle tools, for .vbsp grass, but i don't know how it work. This tools EZ for prop_static and other entities. Spoiler Edited December 10, 2018 by untor That50'sGuy, mr.P, BeanoTV and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruptor Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 12/7/2018 at 1:49 AM, I ♡ The 1950's said: I'm very interested to see how they made the detail sprites work in the map. I've been trying to get them to work for so long now. Thank you for this! the grass in blacksite just seem like normal old-fashioned detailsprites ..i guess it definitely works but a lot of commands cause errors and my grass doesnt look as good but it could be the quality of the texture im using my vmt: Grass { "$basetexture" "sawmill/detailsprites/detailsprites_sawmill" $alphatest 1 $vertexcolor 1 } "$alphatest" and "$vertexcolor" are the only needed and working commands as i know of(everything else makes it glitch out) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamorex Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 1. Decrease Tools - Options - 3D views - Detail render distance value to make Hammer happy. 2. How it's done? Again I'm tried to discover without help from Valve - with success. I created a simple material using one of %detailtype made by Valve for a new map, "survival_grass_2" and I covered one big (~20k) displaced plane by this material. Spoiler "WorldVertexTransition" { "$basetexture" "mamorex/dev64_orange" "$basetexture2" "mamorex/dev64_grey" "%detailtype" "survival_grass_2" } Here's the effect: Spoiler detail.vbsp is in csgo folder, the other files not, so I used GCFScapes. survival_grass_2 using a "detail\detailsprites_survival" for detail sprites. Spoiler grass { "$basetexture" "detail/detailsprites_survival" "$masks" "detail/detailsprites_survival_masks" "$alphatest" "1" "$vertexcolor" "1" "$worldspacetype" "detail/test_massive9_grass_type" "$worldspacetint" "detail/test_massive9_grass_tint" "$worldspaceburn" "_rt_grassburn" "$worldspacezone" "_rt_zoneprojection" %notooltexture "1" // "$worldspacescale" ".75" "$minimumspritesize" "22" } So, Valve created three masks: "$worldspacetint" "detail/test_massive9_grass_tint" It looks like the darker = cover by grass, lighter = no grass. "$worldspacetype" "detail/test_massive9_grass_type" A few colors to decide, what type of grass will be placed. "$masks" "detail/detailsprites_survival_masks" I don't know, how it works, but colors are the same as in the previous one. So, if you want to use a detail sprites in your map like Valve, you must create a .vbsp file with a new detail sprites type and detail sprites material with a new masks, specially designed to your map. If you delete masks entries from your custom detail sprites material, sprites are placed or not by blend alpha value and parameters from .vbsp file. Spoiler Edited December 10, 2018 by Mamorex Squad, Lizard, Serialmapper and 6 others 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanzl Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Alright, I did some testing with the new detail sprites and found out how more specifically how they work. @Mamorex was on the right track but there's a few key things you left out. Removing $alphatest from the material or adding $translucent First, the detail sprites material - it's 2 detail sprite sheets side by side, so version A and version B. The different versions have to have same sprite positions and sizes. You only specify version A coordinates in the .vbsp. Next up, the detail sprites masks. Red and blue are for wind offset -- so you can have different parts of the sprites sway in the wind differently, you can see Valve isolated some blades of grass for this effect. The green channel is a tint mask and controls how much the sprites are affected by the $worldspacetint. That brings us to the world space textures. They seem to automatically get resized to fit the whole map area, so it you resize the map you'd have to resize the textures too. The world space tint texture is pretty self explanatory, controls what color to tint the grass, 127 grey means no tint. The world space masks texture uses the red channel to select which version of the sprites to use -- 0 is version A and anything more is version B. The green channel of the texture controls the sprite size -- 127 is default, with darker making the sprites smaller and brighter making the sprites larger. The vmt command $minimumspritesize controls the cutoff point for the sprites, so the sprites smaller than the specified value don't get rendered which can act as a placement mask. I don't know what the blue channel of this texture does, changing it had no effect on the sprites for me. All this means sprites still get placed by vbsp on map compile, so they still use displacement alpha for the placement, but the new masks can manipulate sprites size and color after map compile. cruptor, leplubodeslapin, El_Exodus and 28 others 25 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 Also reminds me of @[HP] Europa game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
text_fish Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 Would it be possible to use this new detail sprite system on a vertical plane to make ivy on a wall, or will the masks only allow for horizontal(ish) detail? That50'sGuy and Serialmapper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoGG Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 8:33 PM, Yanzl said: [...] Wow this looks amazing! I'm relative new to sprites, maybe you could help me out and upload the .bsp and the detailsprites, and everything you need? That would help me alot. So I can see how its done :) greetz smoGG That50'sGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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