WIP in WIP, post your level screenshots!

[von*ferret]

holy hotness

[SnipaMasta]

That would make a lovely camping spot.

Not that I camp. Never.

[m4d1n]

awesome stuff, like every stuff coming into your hands, i like the colors of this "object" is there a portal inside?

[dissonance]

patch... as in what Silo uses for modeling?

another thing: why aren't nurbs used in games? would the lighting be too complex?

[Sindwiller]

why aren't nurbs used in games?

Uhm, no. Because, today's 3D-Graphics accelerators are vertex based. So, models who are NURBS-based were recalculated into vertices to render properly. Earlier, 3D-Graphics were based on NURBS. The problem was, that NURBS werent very robust. You couldnt do hard-surfaces. And regarding that texture mapping was invented later, were vertex-based 3D-graphics dominated the world, the whole thing sucked.

So, to render NURBS on today's graphics-accelelarator, you need to recalculate them into vertices. This process is time-consuming and ineffizient. A NURBS model would be 5 million vertices (around 7 million polies, eh) as recalculated. A tough modeler could model the same shape with 50k-100k polies.

Wfr, Sindwiller

[dissonance]

Oh.

Well, withmulti core GPUs, could one be dedicated to nurb-based models and the other dedicated to vertex-based geometry, or am I severly over-estimating the value of nurbs for organic object?

[KungFuSquirrel]

awesome stuff, like every stuff coming into your hands, i like the colors of this "object" is there a portal inside?

There will be somewhere; still deciding if I want a hallway leading to this point or just a portal + drop. I'm thinking a good spot for the rocket launcher-esque gun, where you can only get to it by a certain portal or jumping/dropping from the wallwalk above.

patch... as in what Silo uses for modeling?

Sort of. Basically just a curved one-sided mesh instead of a traditional 6-sided brush. Gives you verts at the corners and control points in between to control the curveature/bendiness. Automatically subdivides as needed, with manual subdivision available, and functions as if in a model smoothing group. Quite handy!

[RD]

why aren't nurbs used in games?

Uhm, no. Because, today's 3D-Graphics accelerators are vertex based. So, models who are NURBS-based were recalculated into vertices to render properly. Earlier, 3D-Graphics were based on NURBS. The problem was, that NURBS werent very robust. You couldnt do hard-surfaces. And regarding that texture mapping was invented later, were vertex-based 3D-graphics dominated the world, the whole thing sucked.

So, to render NURBS on today's graphics-accelelarator, you need to recalculate them into vertices. This process is time-consuming and ineffizient. A NURBS model would be 5 million vertices (around 7 million polies, eh) as recalculated. A tough modeler could model the same shape with 50k-100k polies.

Wfr, Sindwiller

Youre 12?

[Bic-B@ll]

whatever the hell a patch mesh is, keep doing it, that looks beautiful.

[Sindwiller]

Well, withmulti core GPUs, could one be dedicated to nurb-based models and the other dedicated to vertex-based geometry, or am I severly over-estimating the value of nurbs for organic object?

Im not sure. Regarding that one GPU needs to stop parallel processes to recalculate NURBS-geometry into vertex-geometry, and regarding also, that the output (vertex-geometry) is often very, very highpoly so it needs a relatively huge amount of RAM to save all data. Even workstation-graphiccards, with a really big amount of RAM (1GB for *one* QuadroFX 5500) have problems with rendering high-detailed NURBS-geometry in realtime. I think, NURBS is atm something for non-realtime rendering like ray-tracing.

Youre 12?

Jup^^

Wfr, Sindwiller

[D3ads]

whatever the hell a patch mesh is, keep doing it, that looks beautiful.

^^

Wtf is NERBS? I feel silly being out knowledged by a 12 year old

[Sindwiller]

NURBS are a alternative way to render and save geometry. The problem is that the way its saved is very painful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NURBS

Wfr, Sindwiller

[Freakman]

I've started to build a little Prey map, too.

The player is a prisoner and has to escape. Here are two wip shots from the cell.

[D3ads]

Not much to see yet, but very sexy all the same, great lighting

[Sindwiller]

Freakman, like others said on mtut.de, your map sucks Joke! It looks very nice! Keep up the good work (except that you really should use some custom content)

Wfr, Sindwiller