VALVE!!! Please, let mappers without RTX cards make their own maps for CS2!

[bruja]

This is incredibly cruel, how Valve literally ruined mapping for thousands of mappers, who dont even have some potato computer, they just don't have fancy RTX-feature.

You have already done lightmap feature without RTX, in Half-Life Alyx Workshop Tools, then why you ruined it in CS2 Workshop Tools!? I mean, you could just literally leave two options for light compiling, one for non-RTX cards, with lower light quality, and one for RTX-cards, with higher light quality. Some feature like "Fast/Full Compile" that you already have.

I bet, many CS:GO mappers now have this problem too, they just can't continue make their own maps, because they don't have RTX-card.

Please, FIX IT!!!

[Serialmapper]

Lo siento, pero no se puede. Hay que comprar rtx. No hay otra opción. 

[Thrik]

It does feel sad as it puts a barrier to entry in place which is the last thing needed in a hobby that already few developers bother to support nowadays, but I think within a year or few almost everyone will have some form of RT-capable card so it’ll cease to be an issue.

Might as well just jump in now, an entry level RTX can be had for quite cheap on eBay. I sold my 2070s not long ago and somebody got a great deal on that.

[S.martin]

Apparently, there is a workaround via cmd (I haven't tried it myself yet)

 

Edited March 12, 2024 by S.martin

[Human Doctor]

The Valve lightmapper takes decades to bake anyway. I don't know how you expect to be able to make anything remotely good looking without an RTX card. Get another hobby. Try Roblox. Roblox has good mapping tools. Or get a dog or something.

Edited March 12, 2024 by Human Doctor

[Deh0lise]

I have the same issue as the OP, old PC (GTX970, i7-4790K) and changing it would be only because of mapping, not for games.

A new 4060 would be enough and fast compillng? (with bottleneck on PCIE 3), or it would take ages to compile?

[Lizard]

On 3/18/2024 at 3:53 PM, Deh0lise said:

I have the same issue as the OP, old PC (GTX970, i7-4790K) and changing it would be only because of mapping, not for games.

A new 4060 would be enough and fast compillng? (with bottleneck on PCIE 3), or it would take ages to compile?

@Squidski Made a google form which compiles a lot of results from the community. You can see what rig have the best results in terms of compile times. I bet it can come in handy when someone is planning to upgrade their PC

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PPAsvUC0jT7QnkuE-7cYCD7LG87mVdhgctD1GC_lk7I/edit#gid=1995078957

[Serialmapper]

@Deh0lise i have a 4060 and it does not take ages. For example my last map which is quite complex, was compiled in 1 hour and 55 minutes at a lightmap resolution of 4096 (final quality settings). The majority of the compile it is done by the GPU. Also i have a i7 7820x. 

Edited March 22, 2024 by Serialmapper

[Deh0lise]

Thanks @Lizard!, difference among the ones I was looking for is narrow, a 4060 ti seems good enough. 

That's a good reference @Serialmapper, thank you, I can wait 2h. I just don't want to leave it at night to compile (like in old css days).

[Lizard]

@Deh0lise no problem mate! Planning to port de_rails or working on something totally new?

[Deh0lise]

Something new and a fast(I hoped) port of rails with minor changes. Facing more challenges than expected though. 

[Lizard]

8 hours ago, Deh0lise said:

Something new and a fast(I hoped) port of rails with minor changes. Facing more challenges than expected though. 

Fingers crossed man! Rails was a map that pushed me to work on my own stuff back then.