de_wanda by warby ... final release !

Quote from L4zy

You are again the only one that just cant handle with crititcs.

Every medal has a turning point u know? My system is not

high but good standard. If you only create maps for high ender

you are absolutely wrong in the job.

I stand my place: the soundscapes are shit because they almost

dont exist.

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it"s not that i wouldnt accept critics, but i don"t accept critics that are not well justified.

if you want to add a good piece to your portfolio you might want to show it for the next 2 or 3 years without being ashame of it. though the fps is not that bad. i can play with around 30 fps on my 2 years old computer.

don't get your problem. maybe you should realise that games do not run in 100 fps all time. this isn't hl1.

Quote from hessi

don't get your problem. maybe you should realise that games do not run in 100 fps all time. this isn't hl1.

It's all about multiplaying and cs:s is the most successful

multiplayer game. The players dont ONLY want a good

look. They want it fluently to run with none of that problems.

Why is de_dust2 successful? Not because the crappy look

but because of the good gameplay and high fps count.

Look what the customer desires if you want your map to

be played all over the servers and maybe the leagues.

then dont download the map?! seriously: don't play it if you don't like its fps rates. flaming this map because of its hardware needs is like calling a chinese teacher stupid because you don't speak his language that fluently.

you can play yur default maps all day. go get your 200fps.

for further discussion you could contact me via icq, irc or any other way.

I think everyone is entitled to his opinion and lazy's points are valid, but I also agree with Hessi that this is not the kind of map that is built for tournaments. If you want a fast, 100% balanced map - play any of the official or CPL maps.

This is more of an artistic showpiece, "built for fun" map from what I understand. Warby had fun making it and it looks pretty orginal, maybe he went a bit over board here and there but if it's playable it should be perfectly fine. Again everybody should be allowed to post his opinion/feedback - if it is considered by the author is a different story

Now be merry kids.

That there are little sounds is not the problem, it's only

one of the points. The biggest point is the performance,

that's what is for me all about here.

I care about the look and said it's brilliant but "look" is

not "map".

And for the sake of god: I'll never feel envy for some-

thing I don't want to aim at.

Simply stunning, some parts of the map needs more polishing etc but I've gotta say this looks outstanding.

Good work, don't worry about the FPS. Your map looks awesome but won't be played in the servers but does it really matter? No, it's your artwork and a great piece to add in your portfolio.

If you complain about the fps in this map, then you so much haven't understood what the map is about. Each map has it's own purpose, high fps is not the purpose of this map.

Fantastic work mate.

Quote from L4zy

If you only create maps for high ender

you are absolutely wrong in the job.

You're so wrong it's not funny. I had this exact same debate on the Steam forums when I released my HL2DM map and there were a bunch of people who were saying the map played like shit for them and how I was a terrible mapper because I mapped for high end people only. Of course, the map ran flawlessly for me on my 9800 PRO with 8 people on the map...I tested the map on a middle of the line video card and it ran solidly, yet I still heard complaint after complaint.

Even if warby's map is a little more demanding than the average CS map, who cares? At some point you have to try and squeeze everything you can out of an engine to keep people interested in the game. The Quake mapping community is still going for this very reason. No one is interested in making maps that still adhere to what people were expecting in 1996.

Buy you a new pc or just skip the bullshit about high fps.

warbys map is fantastic you're all wrong u have the wrong pc.

I TELL U WHAT: I suffered before when my COUNTER STRIKE 1.3 crashed, my pc burned and steamed and I finally broke it.

And what? I bought a new pc and it works awesome.

He built the map for 5 months, you spitted a comment about his map that sucks because of the low fps for a second.

When I look

The effort, time and skill that went into the map is outstanding. Performance is a bit crap in some places but on my computer it's not too worrying. I like the overall style of the map, and it's a pity you had to cut back on soundscapes because the map feels a bit empty because of it (sound compliments the graphics of the map to make a good overall atmosphere).

Hessi, L4zy wasn't really flaming the map, you were trying to rebutt his opinions on the map and while I don't agree with him saying the sound is "shit", he does have some good points. Warby may not have wanted the map to run on mid-range computesr, but that's what the majority of players have - so it's best to try and keep within that.

outstanding

I’d love to give it a try, but steam is down… looks fantastic from the screenshots!

Quote from Ally

I’d love to give it a try, but steam is down… looks fantastic from the screenshots!

Same here, steam is down…

Same here.

"Steam Is Currently Having Trouble Connecting to the Steam Servers" Error - 15/12/06

"There is currently a wide spread power outage in Bellevue/Seattle impacting Steam Server availability. Unfortunately ETA for when the power will be restored is unknown as the power company will only work on restoring it once the storm has eased and the high winds have died down.

Any issues you are experiencing with connecting to Steam are only temporary, as this isn't an end-user issue".

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Same here. "Steam Is Currently Having Trouble Connecting to the Steam Servers" Error - 15/12/06

"There is currently a wide spread power outage in Bellevue/Seattle impacting Steam Server availability. Unfortunately ETA for when the power will be restored is unknown as the power company will only work on restoring it once the storm has eased and the high winds have died down.

Any issues you are experiencing with connecting to Steam are only temporary, as this isn't an end-user issue".

About 1.5 million homes and businesses in Washington and Oregon had no power early today after a howling windstorm knocked down trees and power lines. At least three people died in the storm, including a Seattle woman trapped in her basement while it flooded.

Quote from L4zy

The biggest point is the performance,that's what is for me all about here.

I care about the look and said it's brilliant but "look" is

not "map".

And for the sake of god: I'll never feel envy for some-

thing I don't want to aim at.

in the game industry its called today: "make games for tomorrow, not for yesterday" so buy a new pc and don´t cry about fps!

warby - great work, but i don´t tell you something new *g*

awesome, will have to give it a try once steam works again