Team Fortress 2 still alive :o

I doubt my computer will even run it until I upgrade, which will be next spring I think.

models have always given off stencil shadows.

Aren't these stencil shadows? If yes, they're new to Source tech.

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Nah, they look to me like a overall improved projected shadows algorithm. Or those "non-gameplay" parts are ray-traced

self shadowing?

HL2 doesn't have "non-gameplay" parts... (ie. cutscenes)

Well Valve does use scripted scenes for trailers and stuff but its not the same thing as the cg "gameplay footage" that other guys try to pass off on people.

*cough*killzone*cough*

Oh thats hot!

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HL2 doesn't have "non-gameplay" parts... (ie. cutscenes)

Yes, but thats a movie cuttet from gameplay parts. Maybe Valve has cuttet some ray-traced movies in, you know? I know that HL2 has no cutscenes, ive played it myself.

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self shadowing?

Yes. Self Shadowing. Logically. :roll: And how is self shadowing realized? Except projected texture shadows and stencil shadows (forget the Z-buffered shadows, they suck ass)? :roll:

They've said there's new/improved lighting coming with ep2, so why not?

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Well Valve does use scripted scenes for trailers and stuff but its not the same thing as the cg "gameplay footage" that other guys try to pass off on people.*cough*killzone*cough*

killzone was prerendered, not cutscenes

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killzone was prerendered, not cutscenes

Thats what Polaris said in your quote

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models have always given off stencil shadows.

Nope, HL2 models use projection maps for shadows. One of the ways they get the sometimes rather complicated shadowing going without a too big performance hit.

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Aren't these stencil shadows? If yes, they're new to Source tech.

Nope, that is selfshadowing which is demonstrated there and yep it's new.

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Maybe Valve has cuttet some ray-traced movies in, you know?

Nope, Valve have never used ray traced movies in any of the HL games, so I really doubt that.

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where did you get that btw?