ESRB CONCLUDES INVESTIGATION INTO GTA: SAN ANDREAS

    Also...

    In the USA members of Congress, and most or all politicians, are not gamers. They grew up in a generation before video games. They don't value games or the sarcastic-don't-take-yourself-so-seriously gaming culture at all. So to me it's no surprise that the hotheads in Congress are going after video games with such ferocity. They have accepted TV and Hollywood and Radio, so they don't have this "I'm gunning for you no matter what" mentality the way they do with video games. Sure, the FCC went nuts after the Janet Jackson nipple thing, but that was a special case. I thnk all new forms of entertainment based on new technologies went through this kind of thing as this thread has already hinted on.

    Oh, it was Hatians that sued Rocktar over Vice City...right?

    http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101, ... tw=rss.TOP

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    "That parent doesn't necessarily know that mods are available for their 13-year-old to go out and find that could radically change the product," said ESRB vice president Patricia Vance. "If the rating itself is being undermined by third-party modification, I think we as an industry need to figure out what to do about that."

    On a lot of MP games I see a "ESRB notice: Game experience may change online" (something of that nature). PUT A GOD DAMN "EXPERIENCE MAY CHANGE WITH GAME MODIFICATIONS" LABEL ON IT YOU IDIOTS.

    (Btw, note that it says "13-year-old" on a game PREVIOUSLY RATED MATURE and NOW ADULTS ONLY, GOGO STUPID AMERICAN PARENTS)

    Oh great, so now Microsoft owns the word Windows and Rockstar Games owns the word Rockstar?

    I'll trademark, register and copyright the letter E, the single most used letter in english language, so you won't be typing anything commercial anytime soon!

    We can substitute the letter E with the number 3.

    Kosmo, w3lcom3 to th3 world of silly lawsuits in Am3rica.

    H3r3's an 3xample:

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    FUNimation announced that they licensed Detective Conan for a release in the United States, to be released as "Case Closed" due to legal issues concerning the name Conan (Conan the Barbarian).

    Yeah, that's right. Apparently you can't have Conan in any tv or movie titles, even tough the titles (Detective Conan vs. Conan the Barbarian) and the plots are completely different.

    Anoth3r 3xampl3 (mor3 anim3, sorry guys):

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    The Cowboy Bebop movie carries the subtitle "Knockin' On Heaven's Door". However, due to a copyright dispute over the title, Columbia Tristar released it in America with the shortened title Cowboy Bebop: The Movie.

    And on one of those URLS

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    New York-based Rockstar Games sure knows how to get publicity -- bad publicity, that is. Two days ago, its parent company, Take-Two Interactive Software, revealed that Rockstar's best-selling video game, ''Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas," was the subject of a federal investigation because of a sexually explicit video hidden inside the software.

    They make it sound like theres hardcore porno (and REAL people doing it) inside the game.

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    because of a sexually explicit video hidden inside the software.

    And here I was thinking that it was just a in-game cutscene :roll:

    If they are going to badmouth something, atleast they could use proper terms for things like this, to avoid misleading people to false presumptions. Like UE pointed, the quote clearly implies that there is some sort of Ron Jeremy clip there.

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    Ok, ok, i get it. Guns are great http://%7boption%7d and sex is bad, what a world. I can understand how killing machines are way cooler than love

    Sure!

    I have had sex several times, but I have never fired a weapon, and obviously have never killed a man, so this brings us in to a conclusion that sex is evil and unnatural, and all mankind is twisted freaks apart the killers.

    I think making the game into AO was a good idea since I unlocked the coffee mod just out of interest what the deal was. I think removing it off the shelves was a bit excessive, since the majority of people who bought the game since its release are probably aren't even going to attempt to figure out how to unlock the bonus sex mini game.

    This is what I don't get. On TV you are exposed to sex, drugs, violence, death, murder, all the forms of "everyday life" but when its in a videogame, its like the end of the world. I picked up XBOX GTA SA last week, I had to show ID to buy it. Moments after a woman walked in, asked for the same game, showed the ID walked outside and gave it to her young son sitting in the car. He barely looked older than 16.

    If we are going to be restricting the sale of MA and AO games to kids, shouldn't we also be restricting parents?

    Well, I know that even if the game is AO it doesn't mean the retailer is AO.

    I had a problem several years ago, where me and my gf were going to rent the Blade Directors cut and the woman at our local video reting store didn't rent it to us because we were under 18, so we went to another place that had a clerk familiar to me (a friend if you will) and he rented it to us.

    So the moral of the story, if the local game store was a drug store, I could get any drug available, since I know everyone working there.

    Another one I would like to add is, that watching a single episode of OZ or Shield if way more harmfull than a videogame sex scene they can unlock through the internet with some serious knowledge of modifications, period.

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    This is what I don't get. On TV you are exposed to sex, drugs, violence, death, murder, all the forms of "everyday life" but when its in a videogame, its like the end of the world. I picked up XBOX GTA SA last week, I had to show ID to buy it. Moments after a woman walked in, asked for the same game, showed the ID walked outside and gave it to her young son sitting in the car. He barely looked older than 16.

    The sad part about this, is that parents STILL blame rockstar for the content, even though they're the ones buying the game for their kids. This is exactly the same thing as a parent buying their (underage) kid alcohol. Sure, there's anti-alcohol parents, but they don't over-do it like they do with GTA. It's not the alcohol company's fault, and it's not the stores fault, BLAME THE PARENTS (or the 21 year old friend, but in gta's case, 17).

    most parents dont really even care about what a game has in it, provided the child is over 15 or 16

    i work at blockbuster and bafore gta sa was taken off the shelves, it would be in the norm for a mother or father to buy or rent it out for their child of. in some cases the kis wasnt even old enough to play teen rated games, let alone san andreas. i say rent it out to everyone, because the mroe restricted something is, the more people will want to get it.

    Funny thing is that, even when a game is considered bad for even a over 15 year old, it is often put in the same place as tobacco and alcohol.

    Now let's see, tobacco is the main reason for lung cancer for well over one hundred years, alcohol has been the main reason for liverfailure for about a thousand years, and vaguely a handful of game related shootings has happened around the time of 8 to 10 years. So versus around millions of people dead because of tobacco and alcohol and videogame related killing sprees, yes I can find you why people think that videogames are way worse to their kids than a pack of smokes each day for the rest of their life.

    Hah, yeah

    unless one of your kids is some emo loser that is about to snap (and if thats the case, HOW COULD YOU LET YOUR KID GO EMO), if your kid smokes, does drugs or drinks, gta is the last thing that'll cause problems. The 3 mentioned things are all proven to lead to bad habits later in peoples' lives. Video games just don't compare. Except for the rare chances that some gamer does snap and kills their classmates (where the classmates bully the kid, the fact that the kid is a gamer is just a coincidence), the most video games could do is turn a kid that could have had a chance in life to an addicted video gamer, that plays games all night instead of doing homework, then their attendence suffers, they don't graduate. they spend the next 30 years in their parents' basement, never seeing a naked women (excluding porno).

    That almost sounds familiar... oh shit...

    The poor bastards have just confirmed that games are considered as bad to kids as tobacco and alcohol, as the state of illinois is trying to pass a law that allows them to fine of 1,000$ if a clerk sells a game to a minor.

    Now if I remember correct, the fine for selling tobacco to a minor is 500$ so the state of illinois actually considers games as MORE dangerous to your health than tobacco.

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