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What do you think about the new look?

  • Vorontsov
  • May 22, 2015 at 12:29 AM
  • Thrik
    • May 28, 2015 at 11:35 PM
    • #121

    I find it quite convenient, makes it easier to preview what the final post will look like (which is good because I did notice there's no formal preview feature). With that said, you still get the in-editor preview if you use 'Insert other media'.

    If it does annoy everyone it's probably an option I can experiment with when there's time. This is the kind of thing I expect the vendor will get a lot of feedback about so they might very well make it a per-user option, or a plugin will appear doing so.

  • blackdog
    • May 29, 2015 at 12:57 AM
    • #122

    I think it disrupts the "serial pasting" process, but maybe it's just me. Definitely is not a major thing.

    Another one: is it just for me or the (javascript) pagination doesn't work with back/forward? I was just at the last page of a topic, went to previous page, then hit backspace, page reloaded but was on the same page... hit backspace I was on the previous topic (i did jump from one to the other through the notification)

  • laminutederire
    • May 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM
    • #123

    It tells me I cannot upload more than 512Kb when I try to post a jpg which weights only 100Kb, after I tried to upload a file that was indeed too large. When I refresh the page it works, it seems there's a weird memory issue, don't know how important it can be so I'm better off reporting it just in case

  • Thrik
    • May 29, 2015 at 12:27 PM
    • #124

    It seemed to be set to 0.5MB of attachments per post, which wasn't intentional. I've now set it to the intended limits, which is 50MB per user for all attachments, and 5MB of attachments per post.

    Note that you've got an attachment manager here: https://migrationtest.mapcore.org/attachments/

  • jackophant
    • May 29, 2015 at 2:02 PM
    • #125
    Quote from Sprony

    WTF is that?

    for potential genuine interest, it's a Frilled Shark, it's been dubbed a living fossil.

  • blackdog
    • May 30, 2015 at 9:23 AM
    • #126

    Found another bug in the pagination.

    The "share this post" link for the last two posts in a page doesn't work: if you middle click/copy-paste it, sends you to the subsequent page. Link itself seems correct, but when it's translated the system gets the page wrong.
    For eg: Puddy's post points to comment=395186, but when you open it in a new tab or copy paste, gets translated into this which sends to page 116 instead of 115. Same on page 114, sends you to #115 :XD:

    This problem then translate to quoted posts (which is actually the way I found it, I was trying to follow a quoted post and was redirected just to top of the page).

  • jackophant
    • June 5, 2015 at 10:11 AM
    • #127

    Is there really no way to fix the text editing?

    I haven't seen any edit options for a while now, and i've tried numerous hard refreshes.

    Does it accept BBCode if i run off any work out how to do that?

  • Thrik
    • June 5, 2015 at 10:22 AM
    • #128

    Sorry I don't follow, what aren't you seeing? Can you screenshot it?

    BBCode should still be accepted and converted to formatting upon submission.

  • jackophant
    • June 5, 2015 at 11:35 AM
    • #129

    This is all I see, there are no options to change font family / colour / size, or code view.

    [Blocked Image: http://i.gyazo.com/431fdb36799a0f5165181fc6a8d17fee.png]

    I can't think of anything else missing.

  • Vaya
    • June 5, 2015 at 11:42 AM
    • #130

    [Blocked Image: http://i.imgur.com/zqXd48S.png] - firefox 38.0.5

    would like a 'clear formatting' button

  • jackophant
    • June 5, 2015 at 11:52 AM
    • #131

    nop, still doesn't work:

    [Blocked Image: http://i.gyazo.com/5219b5457ffa70647f898265517c2c68.png]

    My previous screenshot was from Chrome Version 43.0.2357.81 m

  • Thrik
    • June 5, 2015 at 11:55 AM
    • #132

    Oh, you're seeing the tablet version of the editor @jackophant. When the page loads, the editor buttons available is determined by the screen size (i.e. mobile, tablet, desktop). This is so that the buttons actually fit, although it does look like there is a bit more room available on tablet sizes.

    If you were to make your browser window wider and refresh it'd most likely show them all, but I can probably fit the buttons in so I'll do that. There is no longer a code view though, BBCode is just entered directly into the regular editor.

    @Vaya the button to the right of bold/italic/underline/strike clears formatting.

  • jackophant
    • June 5, 2015 at 11:59 AM
    • #133

    ffs, fucking responsive... fuck! im such a derp :\

    well... even though it went to tablet mode (what's the breakpoint set at?) internet explorer wins as it still worked!

    [Blocked Image: http://i.gyazo.com/580e83e19a0773984c6ef289b4db32bc.png]

    I can't even complain, my recent website uses very similar breakpoints, but I guess it didn't have this sort of functionality to reorganise.

  • Thrik
    • June 5, 2015 at 12:03 PM
    • #134

    I've updated the configuration of buttons for all screen sizes now. It's no longer possible to fit any more on without some proper messing around, so BBCode will be needed for additional functionality. To fit the font formatting onto tablet-size, I've had to take away the (very rarely used) alignment options.

  • Vaya
    • June 5, 2015 at 12:03 PM
    • #135

    Sweet, thanks! it's clearly their fault for changing the icon :v

  • jackophant
    • June 5, 2015 at 12:29 PM
    • #136

    Thank you @Thrik this is wonderful :D

  • blackdog
    • June 5, 2015 at 2:02 PM
    • #137

    Hey Thrik, I just wanted to leave my 2 cents. Hope it won't sound too whiny, I don't want to diminish the work you've been doing, on the contrary :)

    But, although I like the look and feel in general, I feel the website is slower than before. Especially on mobile is quite a chore. Where before there were the usual limitations you expect on mobiles, now you can see that it hasn't been thought properly (or tested).

    the very generous paddings make for a less enjoyable reading.

    One very annoying bug I encounter in iOS, is the navigation back: using the gesture, the previous page is displayed briefly, then again the page you were on, then it actually goes to previous page. Because of the response times, I often end up tapping something on the previous page, but because of the switching I interact with the page i am navigating away from.

    Another bug I found is about getting to the newest post of a topic: the star works like you indicated, but if there's no new posts from last visit, that link is disabled, you have to click on the last post time on the right. I dunno, just seems inconsistent to me.

  • Thrik
    • June 5, 2015 at 2:33 PM
    • #138

    Don't worry I'm not offended, bear in mind I didn't build all of this myself. :D

    Some of the things you describe are clearly issues, however because the software is still relatively new there are lots of bugs going through the vendor's bug tracker and being fixed with maintenance releases. For example, I believe one has just come out that I need to schedule time in to install.

    When it comes to things that seem downright buggy such as the back functionality, I would expect those to be fixed relatively quickly now the software has out been out in the wild for a while, and also I am reporting things that seem like they should be fixed at the software level. There's no harm in letting me know about problems, whatever the case.

    Regarding the mobile view, I think that we're entering subjective territory here. In my opinion the mobile layout works well in that it retains most functionality without adding very much to the scale of things. There is more scrolling, but in exchange it means that everyday functionality such as 'like' and quoting aren't buried beneath taps like they were before.

    I also find the text more comfortable to read thanks to the additional leading between lines; it might not be as efficient, but it's better typography. Also, the forum listing is more loaded with content but actually includes things like articles and various other data now, and of course the articles themselves barely worked with the previous layout.

    Speed is something I've noticed, although it is an inevitable side-effect of now streaming all of the JavaScript, avatars, attachments, etc that were often just missed out entirely with the previous layout. I have been taking steps to address it a bit at a time, for example we have Varnish caches and potentially with time CDN-served assets. I'm also experimenting with various server-side ways of caching data and layout.

    I'm not completely dismissing your concerns, there are areas that need improvement; as I say, feel free to share which things specifically are hindering you and I'll do what I can. But overall I would say the mobile experience is a big step forward, as someone who spends at least 50% of my MapCore time using it.

  • blackdog
    • June 5, 2015 at 3:29 PM
    • #139

    Cool.

    Yes i know you are using software, I just wanted to put my hands forward because I feel a bit guilty when I report things, I know you do this in your spare time.

    Guess that on the mobile we just disagree :) I know it was clunky before, but just felt more reliable. I especially don't enjoy the writing posts actions.

    Anyway, wanted to ask already a while ago: in the past you collected money to keep the site up if I remember correctly… just wanted to say that since I now have a job if be happy to contribute a donation if needed.

  • Thrik
    • June 5, 2015 at 4:06 PM
    • #140

    There are bugs with the editor, but again I'm really hoping these will be resolved soon. That's a deep rabbit hole to start messing with myself. :D

    That'd be very kind of you. As it happens, I've been looking into setting up a way of allowing people to easily do this and will get some details up soon. :D

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