Quote from CampaignjunkieI'm eager to dismiss the numbers because there's an agenda behind them: to portray the game industry as more inclusive than it really is. How many 50 year old mothers will play Starhawk with their daughters? Are we making those billions of dollars from 50 year old women yet? What if a 53 year old man visited Lightbox by himself, outside the context of being a good parent who plays console games with their kids son -- then wouldn't that be a little weird?
If he were as dedicated a fan and supporter as the two guys we brought in (who happened to bring their sons), I'm sure we'd be happy to have him by, let him play the game early, and see what he thinks. 
In both cases, we were already letting those guys come by, and then said yes when they wanted to bring their sons by, too. We've also got at least a few 30-40ish mothers in the Warhawk crowd, too, but I don't know their children's gaming habits 
But that's all anecdotal anyway.
Quote from CampaignjunkieI'm not saying we need a "games for girls" or "games for seniors" thing because that's stupid -- but that JPEG is trying to hide how the core console industry is still a "games for boys" manshoot circle jerk.Fortunately, I love men shooting and I love circle jerks, so that's okay... an industry catered to the tastes of young men is great as long as we don't lie to ourselves about it and fudge some numbers as Izuno mentioned, just so some lobbying group (like the ESA) can point to it to claim the game industry is a universal good, resist government regulation and enact their own agenda.
The core console industry totally is. I'd love to see it be more broad, and I'd actually wager it's far more broad this generation than last generation by way of an older demographic and things like the Wii and Kinect. But that's not the entirety of what we're talking about here. What about MMOs? Social games? Mobile games? PC niche titles (war games were always for old dudes )? All still count. The latter two are blowing the console audiences out of the water. It's easy to focus on the core console market and demographic because it's the loudest and flashiest (and it's where most of us here came from), but it's not the only or biggest kid on the block anymore.
Quote from CampaignjunkieTL;DR yeah it's good that more people play games and I love FPS games blah blah blah, but we shouldn't forget the industry still has lots of problems and don't kid ourselves about how far we still have to go blah blah blah, AND don't let the Big Corporate Conspiracy pervert our love of games into a form of political lobbying
I'm with you on all of these points, too. I just don't think these numbers are necessarily misrepresented
But that might be too much noise me thinks.
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