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My simulation of Debate Numero Uno

  • The Postman
  • October 1, 2004 at 4:00 PM
  • The Postman
    • October 1, 2004 at 4:00 PM
    • #1

    and...go:

    *bickering for the entire time about things that have happened and we can't change with vague notions of a future plan on both parties sides, exchanges of barbs, quizzical looks from Bush, Kerry's ghastly grin and in the end we're all dumber for having watched it*

    I'm just thankful I didn't take a shot any time Kerry mentioned 'Nam or Bush mentioned terror/terrorists. I'd be dead of alcohol poisoning.

  • insta
    • October 1, 2004 at 4:04 PM
    • #2

    I think I speak for the entire Parliament when I say :

    what?

  • Urban
    • October 1, 2004 at 4:50 PM
    • #3
    Quote

    Wasn't that hella boring? I feel like I should get a purple heart just for watching it.

    lol.. debate drinking game.. now thats an idea.. oh well.. couldnt of last night.. (work+drinking=bad) but that aside..

    i was sooo disapointed in bush, he had so many chances to really bring it to kerry, about his voting record and his stances on issues... but he had the deer in a headlight look that he does so well

    and i cant stand this elitest crap coming from kerry... instead of talking about what hes going to do.. he kept going on and on and on and on...ect about what he WOULD HAVE DONE (being a monday night quarterback is so easy)... i agree.. we all are dumber for watching/listening to it :/

    one thing really got to me... this may not be a big thing for most americans.. but it really got to me

    Quote

    "I also intend to double the number of special forces so that we can do the job we need to do with respect fighting the terrorists around the world. And if we do that, then we have the ability to be able to respond more rapidly."

    now we dont let just everyone in to the Rangers/Seals/Delta... those are "elite" groups... this aint the special ed forces...

    it is not that there is not enough people are trying to get in.. its not enough people qualify to get in...

    oh well.. i wanna see darth cheney tear in to wonder boy edwards... in round 2

  • The Postman
    • October 1, 2004 at 4:55 PM
    • #4

    Cheney/Edwards is gonna be like Bush/Kerry debate, only reversed in the whole "deer in headlights" position.

  • Urban
    • October 1, 2004 at 5:00 PM
    • #5

    thats what im hoping for >

  • The Postman
    • October 1, 2004 at 5:20 PM
    • #6

    I'm just curious to see how Halliburton is brought up by Edwards and sensibly explained by Cheney, since I don't think that can happen - the sensible explanation that is.

  • Urban
    • October 1, 2004 at 5:27 PM
    • #7

    Yeah, about how evil it was for Bill Clinton to give Halliburton a no-bid contract in Yugoslavia... those evil Republicans.. oh wait.. nm...

    edit: im not defending Halliburton.. those bastards have been ripping us off for to long.. but i hate hearing people blaming bush for stuff clinton did too

  • The Postman
    • October 1, 2004 at 5:30 PM
    • #8

    Wasn't poking at the Republicans, I was poking at Cheney, former president of said company. Such a huge contract and it's no bid and the VP of the US used to run the company that gets it - and gets a $1,000,000 bonus later on from said company? No, I don't see anything wrong there at all. Not to mention all the financial and fraudulent errors that company has made that strangely keep getting shot out of the spot light post haste.

  • Urban
    • October 1, 2004 at 5:36 PM
    • #9

    plz read my edit i did before seeing your reply

    edit: ty for keeping this civil

    kinda off topic.. lololol

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  • The Postman
    • October 1, 2004 at 6:57 PM
    • #10

    Why won't the world let these star-crossed lovers be together? Stay tuned for the next episode of As the Election Turns.

  • Urban
    • October 1, 2004 at 7:07 PM
    • #11

    this got off-topic so fast

    i dont know what scares me more.. the "whore" look or the

    "orange alert" look

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  • Duff-e
    • October 1, 2004 at 8:25 PM
    • #12

    i liked the part where they complimented each other on their wives and started laughing and having fun

    SWINGERS ANYONE?

    the whole halliburton thing was kind of uncalled for....its more of a media type thing to run that into the ground and use it to "rally the troops....if i were a kerry supporter id be kind of disappointed about that whole thing

    btw the only real argument there was the whole bi-lateral/group talks with north korea....at least that was what mostly kept me interested. at one point (like 40 minutes in) i thought that bush was starting to lose (i cant remember why....i should prob watch again), but they kind of evened out again.

    cheney could do so many more legit things to make well over $1,000,000...i dont see why you think he would have to do something extremely public like say, start a war, in order to make the money. he could walk outside or do public speakings....or fuck even write a book....to pick 1m

  • Taylor
    • October 1, 2004 at 8:33 PM
    • #13
    Quote from Urban

    and i cant stand this elitest crap coming from kerry... instead of talking about what hes going to do.. he kept going on and on and on and on...ect about what he WOULD HAVE DONE (being a monday night quarterback is so easy)... i agree.. we all are dumber for watching/listening to it :/

    That makes him look better and Bush look worse and concentrates on the most important thing that has happened during Bushes reign, the war on terror. I like the way you assume he would have made the same, if not worse, choices Bush made and only formed his opinion on what he would have done afterwards. Ever the pessimist.

    Quote

    one thing really got to me... this may not be a big thing for most americans.. but it really got to me"I also intend to double the number of special forces so that we can do the job we need to do with respect fighting the terrorists around the world. And if we do that, then we have the ability to be able to respond more rapidly."

    now we dont let just everyone in to the Rangers/Seals/Delta... those are "elite" groups... this aint the special ed forces...

    it is not that there is not enough people are trying to get in.. its not enough people qualify to get in...

    Maybe he's going to train people better so they do get in, rather than your assumed stance where he opens the doors to everyone.

    I've a feeling you won't like Edward's debate so much, he's just going to purposely misinterpret Kerrys comments to make him look bad, which you've done preemptively. And it's bad preemptive; like a war on a country that's no real threat that causes more turmoil than there was previously.

  • Duff-e
    • October 1, 2004 at 8:37 PM
    • #14

    imo bush won, but only because he locked down kerry on a key foreign policy issues in a foreign policy debate

    the line that won the heart of duffy (all 19 times it was said):

    "you say you want to bring foreign leaders to the table, yet you call them the coerced and the bribed"

    especially since that IS kerry's foreign policy argument "dur lets gets the other people to help too...no ones tried that!"

    http://johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvoting ... nyway.com/

  • kleinluka
    • October 1, 2004 at 9:07 PM
    • #15

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    bst 2-seconds-photoshop evr~

  • Urban
    • October 1, 2004 at 9:27 PM
    • #16
    Quote from Taylor

    And it's bad preemptive; like a war on a country that's no real threat that causes more turmoil than there was previously.

    Quote

    "We know we can't count on the French. We know we can't count on the Russians," said Mr. Kerry. "We know that Iraq is a danger to the United States, and we reserve the right to take pre-emptive action whenever we feel it's in our national interest." -John Kerry 1997"Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture don't have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president." -John Kerry 12/20/03

    "Iraq may not be the war on terror itself, but it is critical to the outcome of the war on terror, and therefore any advance in Iraq is an advance forward in that and I disagree with the Governor [Howard Dean]." -John Kerry, 12/15/03

    "I would disagree with John McCain that it’s the actual weapons of mass destruction he may use against us, it’s what he may do in another invasion of Kuwait or in a miscalculation about the Kurds or a miscalculation about Iran or particularly Israel. Those are the things that - that I think present the greatest danger. He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat." -John Kerry, "Face The Nation", 9/15/02

    "It would be naive to the point of grave danger not to believe that, left to his own devices, Saddam Hussein will provoke, misjudge, or stumble into a future, more dangerous confrontation with the civilized world....He has supported and harbored terrorist groups, particularly radical Palestinian groups such as Abu Nidal, and he has given money to families of suicide murderers in Israel. ...We should not go to war because these things are in his past, but we should be prepared to go to war because of what they tell us about the future." -John Kerry 10/9/02

    "I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq - Saddam Hussein is a renegade and outlaw who turned his back on the tough conditions of his surrender put in place by the United Nations in 1991." -John Kerry, 7/29/02

    "George, I said at the time I would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry, Democratic Debate, 5/3/03

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  • kleinluka
    • October 1, 2004 at 9:49 PM
    • #17

    I think the TV should just air a link to the mapcore forums. Would influence a vote more than a silly tv show.

  • Urban
    • October 1, 2004 at 9:58 PM
    • #18

    map.core the vote [Blocked Image: http://www.sanys.org/images/med/check.jpg]

  • Taylor
    • October 2, 2004 at 12:16 AM
    • #19

    Edit: I don't care enough to start a quoteathon

  • Duff-e
    • October 2, 2004 at 3:34 AM
    • #20

    Google Translator:

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    Edit: I don't care enough to start a quoteathon

    to

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    you got me, im fucked! D:!

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