The elephant in the room - Kane & Lynch reviews :D

    Well, I can't even give you my opinion as the game just crashes at the same place every single time; whilst loading the first mission. Every time without fail.

    Mazy, do me a favour and put in a Mantis bug for that shit :S :S

    I'm also massively pissed about the windows live shit - it's just a good thing I already have an account or it'd be a blatant slap in the face. Not too happy with the way Live is integrated into the game. Overall it makes it feel like the PC version was a very sloppy port.

    This game had me very interested from day one; I don't know what happened during development but, no offence here, this seems like a really shoddy release. Was there a lot of unreasonable pressure from Eidos?

    (also the install time is unbelievable - 30 minutes of copying files!)

    installed it and took a quickie (around 20 mins)

    first impressions of gameplay were awesome. i really like the way the intro propels you into the story and the fact that it doesnt really look or sound like another generic shooter, which was my biggest fear since reading the reviews. also, some of the mechanics like the avoid the sniper minigame were pretty cool. graphics aside i think the game is, from what i've played, pretty solid. reminds me of freedom fighters, which is only a good thing. ;D

    also, congrats mazy

    The forums are looking equally hilarious;

    http://%7boption%7d

    A lot of people seem to be obsessed with telling people to perform oral sex on them, and at the same time hating homosexuals. Are all of those posts by the same group of 12 year olds?

    Edit: Having just seen the video review and been following most of the review scores on Gamerankings/Metacritic but not having played the game, it seems all of the reviewer's criticism were within reason. The score might seem a bit low based on his given opinion of the game, but some times you just don't seem to buy into a game for one reason or another, and you can't always change that. It seems absolutely ridonculous to fire him based on a harsh review when large amounts of advertising money is being thrown their way. I still can't come to a decision of who I think should be in the spotlight, but the situation definitely does not seem justified. Personally, Gamespot is generally notorious for laying down the law on game reviews, with providing strong reviews and enough reason behind the scores they give. It seems when there's money involved, there's a clear line in freedom of speech.

    Oh damn, I've heard this rumor from various management people at IO the last couple of days, but I thought it sounded too crazy to be true. This isn't good at all, at least if the K&L review is the main reason. In fact I'd say that I'm a bit ashamed to be working under a parent company that has put these kind of things into motion. It's pretty serious if advertisers have this kinda power of the reviewers, pretty sad.

    However, I do agree that Jeff's review did feel very angry, especially the video review. Although I'm in no way saying that K&L is a perfect game, and that its metascore probably is somewhat fair, then it felt like he was ONLY hitting on the worst bits of the game, and totally ignoring most of its good parts.

    Guess we'll have to wait for the details :G

    Sure, he's entitled to his opinion.

    But people like him (who work for large companies like that) should remember not to bite the hand that feeds.

    Reviewing can be a dangerous job. This is why Penny Arcade requests copies of the game very early on (even during development) so that they'll get an idea if the game is going to suck or not. That way they can advertise and review safely.

    I think what happened to that GameSpot editor, one of the leading games press sites, is a frightening testimonial to just how immature this industry's press is.

    I mean, it was already pretty clear considering that we're still using crazy 1/100 score systems, but this is just the last nail in the coffin.

    Games press needs to grow up, and fast.

    This is a disaster.

    If it's true, that an editor is fired because an advertiser threatened to cancel their ad campaign on the site (because said editor wrote a negative review on the advertiser's product), how can objective journalism be ensured? Will there be no more 6.0's on Gamespot from now on, because all editors are afraid to lose their job?

    I don't think Gamespot and other websites/magazines fully realize what kind of responsibility they have. Their reviews are orientation to consumers on what games to buy and thus indirectly also for developers/publishers on what games to make. If they just fly out to exclusive on site reviews, sip champagne with the studio bosses and up their review scores for ad campaigns, I'm not willing to listen to these people any longer.

    Back on the topic, i have completed Kane & Lynch PC last night. And i must say the game is very fun, whatever gaming sites are saying (french reviews sites gave far more lower scores, ranging from 4 to 5). Best levels so far : the night club (Find the baddies through the crowd - pure awesomeness) and the final level "Consequence" which is probably the best one : completely open, f**kin' impressive line of sight when you've reached the church...using the sniper rifle is definitely useful at this point, and exciting...too bad this kind of level have not been mandatory for the whole game.

    [spoilerZ AHEAD]Too bad I couldn't prevent the chick from being shot...been trying everything to avoid this and i was disappointed the level script spawned an enemy at the pier just to shot her [/sPOILZ]

    Havana levels were damn hard, even with a mouse which is supposed to help aiming. I died countless times when you first regroup with an entire army, and then again when you're assaulting the governement building.

    But the game is fine imo, voice acting is topnotch, storyline is ok, and lynch is definitely my favorite character : "I can fucking believe we're going back there ! I can't fucking believe it!". FTW.

    Quote from Thrik

    I think what happened to that GameSpot editor, one of the leading games press sites, is a frightening testimonial to just how immature this industry's press is. I mean, it was already pretty clear considering that we're still using crazy 1/100 score systems, but this is just the last nail in the coffin.

    Games press needs to grow up, and fast.

    i completely agree. it seems that the majority of reviewer have a problem not being biased fanboys in some aspects. i always take reviews, especially from gamespot, with a grain of salt. it's almost not worth listening to them.

    I feel really bad for you IO guys having your game associated with this, and it sucks to see people taking it out on K&L on the Gamespot user reviews and the like. This is just one of those things that once it's reported, true or not, is going to be a stain for Eidos and Gamespot for a long time. Shame someone else's game will also suffer for it.

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