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So What Did Rockstar Change To Get Manhunt 2 Released?

  • -HP-
  • September 12, 2007 at 3:59 PM
  • -HP-
    • September 12, 2007 at 3:59 PM
    • #1

    This is bullshit...

    IGN know, they've just sat down with a copy of the new, ready-for-release cut of Manhunt 2. So just what, exactly, is the difference between it and the original, not-suitable-for-release version? They report that the victim of the censor's blade has been the game's death sequences, those little cutscenes you got when successfully bringing an opponent down via stealth. One, involving a set of pliers and a man's kenobis, has been completely removed. All other kill shots have been graphically edited, so that the camera darkens and blurs, obscuring just what exactly is going on. You can still get the rough idea (ie knife to face), just not in the same vivid detail as before.

    I wish I could play the original one... I mean, omg... nothing like leaving the really violent stuff to the player's imagination, that shit It's probably worse than if they'd just left the original scenes in... BURN!!

  • Thrik
    • September 12, 2007 at 4:12 PM
    • #2

    Yeah, lamery. I mean I personally don't get off on the whole brutal, graphic killing thing, but if movies like this (this was shown in the UK and also contains a one-shot 10-minute rape scene, but not in this video; it takes about a minute for the violence to kick in) can get away with it then games clearly should.

    That said, the uncensored PlayStation 2 version was leaked onto Internets a few weeks ago, albeit in a buggy, beta state. If seeing the original means that much to you it might be worth tracking down.

  • Grinwhrl
    • September 12, 2007 at 4:23 PM
    • #3

    That was fucken sick.... Manhunt in no way is that violent. That clip was just messed up, its hard to think I even kept watching

  • dux
    • September 12, 2007 at 4:33 PM
    • #4

    Is it wrong that I got some sort of sick satisfaction from watching that?

  • Thrik
    • September 12, 2007 at 4:53 PM
    • #5

    Yyyyyyyyyes.

  • ChopperDave
    • September 12, 2007 at 4:56 PM
    • #6

    Yeah that clip was pretty nasty.

  • Defrag
    • September 12, 2007 at 5:57 PM
    • #7

    Why am I not surprised than Manhunt 2 is now cleared for release when the original judgement made out that the content and concept was fundamentally 'wrong'? The way I understood the initial ban announcement was that, short of a fundamental redesign, the game would never be fit for release. Well, that's what they said, but I was always extremely sceptical that the game wouldn't be released. Nor was I under the illusion that the content would drastically change.

    Call me a cynic, but I'm in no way surprised that they've managed to turn it around while simultaneously gaining so much (free) publicity. It'll be interesting to compare the unreleased & released content. I'm betting that they've just toned down the violence a touch and that's about it.

  • -HP-
    • September 12, 2007 at 5:57 PM
    • #8
    Quote from dux

    Is it wrong that I got some sort of sick satisfaction from watching that?

    ah ah, I second that!

  • D3ads
    • September 12, 2007 at 8:15 PM
    • #9

    Agrrhhh, not Irreversible again, that clip made me throw up the first time you posted it

    Anyway.. a load of bullshit on the MH2 front, still I wonder how long it'll be before it's banned again because someone stabbed someone else who owned the game.. :roll:

  • Sentura
    • September 12, 2007 at 8:44 PM
    • #10

    pretty long for an execution scene... i'd like it more if he had some razor sharp nails, then rolled him onto the back and ripped his spine out with his bare hands.

    i dont mind people beating each other up like this, what i do mind is when people kill animals for fun (see zippocat etc).

  • Nexus
    • September 12, 2007 at 9:11 PM
    • #11
    Quote from ChopperDave

    Yeah that clip was pretty nasty.

  • Psy
    • September 12, 2007 at 10:25 PM
    • #12

    Manhunt is poo anyway.

  • Taylor
    • September 12, 2007 at 11:26 PM
    • #13
    Quote from Thrik

    Yeah, lamery. I mean I personally don't get off on the whole brutal, graphic killing thing, but if movies like this (this was shown in the UK and also contains a one-shot 10-minute rape scene, but not in this video; it takes about a minute for the violence to kick in) can get away with it then games clearly should.

    Well, generally the argument is that violent video games have the added element of being interactive. Of course we know that these fatalities are essentially movies within the game, the people complaining about Manhunt 2 and its predecessor were of course painted a vivid picture that we’re manually torturing innocent people in some kind of murder simulator.

    I was trying to find a link to the torture scene in Ichi the Killer (well, one of them - the guy suspended in air) but YouTube has put 18 ratings on all those so you need an account. I find it funny that Irreversible one hasn't been tagged the same.

  • Steppenwolf
    • September 12, 2007 at 11:41 PM
    • #14

    A difference may be that Irreversible has a anti-violent message tho (as it shows how unexpected violence can destroy the lifes of normal people from one moment to the next).

    Still there should be no censorship for adults in my opinion. It's silly.

  • Thrik
    • September 13, 2007 at 9:58 AM
    • #15

    Yeah, I have to agree that makes no sense Taylor. I was originally under the impression you'd be using something like your Wiimote to participate in these violent scenes, but then discovered that like before you just watch them as a reward. As such, like you say we're taking no active role in the slaying and so it should be treated just like a film.

    Heck, in that respect Rockstar were quite smart -- yet still got censored.

  • -HP-
    • September 13, 2007 at 12:18 PM
    • #16

    btw, for those who havent played the first one, here's what the fatalities look like: http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=105018

  • ^Slick
    • September 13, 2007 at 2:06 PM
    • #17

    Wow, manhunt 2 looks like balls.

  • D3ads
    • September 13, 2007 at 5:15 PM
    • #18
    Quote from ^Slick

    Wow, manhunt 2 looks like balls.

    ...that video is from the original Mahunt. I agree with Manhunt 2 looking crappy, but then it's for the Ps2 so...

  • Thrik
    • September 13, 2007 at 5:22 PM
    • #19

    That's not from the original Manhunt; that's Manhunt 2.

    I have to agree, it really is a shit-looking game. Being on the PS2 is no excuse because games like Metal Gear Solid 3 and God of War look fantastic, as well as many other games on the system.

  • D3ads
    • September 13, 2007 at 5:28 PM
    • #20

    Oh I mistook him saying 'the first one' So yeah.. MH2 looks like MH1, probably the same engine like GTA3/VC/SA...

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