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Brits hit by FF

  • Dodger
  • February 7, 2007 at 4:38 PM
  • Dodger
    • February 7, 2007 at 4:38 PM
    • #1

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,11021-10043,00.html

    Idiots of course.. what to say..

  • FrieChamp
    • February 7, 2007 at 5:29 PM
    • #2

    wow that's quite irritating to watch, I don't wanna be in those guys shoes (neither in those of the pilots nor those of the friendlies).

    As the pilot said on the tape - there clearly was miscommunication between what the controller said and what the pilots saw, but I'd be interested to know how easily one could take those tanks for orange rockets from up there

    Good that they aborted that artillery strike on time

  • Rick_D
    • February 7, 2007 at 6:43 PM
    • #3

    This has been all over the news here, and frankly the Americans are behaving the same way about this that they do about every other similar incident: denial of wrong-doing, saying their military courts did an investigation and cleared everybody of everything.

    I would like to know how many FF incidents occur between the Iraqis with their low-tech (by comparison) equipment

  • General Vivi
    • February 7, 2007 at 11:50 PM
    • #4

    wow that sucks man .

  • FMPONE
    • February 8, 2007 at 12:04 AM
    • #5

    I think the hardest part of watching the video this morning was hearing the guy said "I think I'm going to be sick" when they told him it was friendlies, as easy as it is to throw around blame I can't help but sympathize as this will probably plague him for the rest of his life

  • FrieChamp
    • February 8, 2007 at 9:14 AM
    • #6

    Yea what goes through your head when you hear this man..

  • st0lve
    • February 8, 2007 at 2:12 PM
    • #7

    They should have double-checked, since the Brits have orange marks on their vehicles.

  • e-freak
    • February 8, 2007 at 2:19 PM
    • #8

    -snip-

  • FrieChamp
    • February 8, 2007 at 2:49 PM
    • #9

    Iraqis in Afgahnistan?

  • Ginger Lord
    • February 8, 2007 at 2:54 PM
    • #10
    Quote from FrieChamp

    Iraqis in Afgahnistan?

    I'm sure there is, however this video is from Iraq.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2007060452,00.html

    Guy didn't stand a chance.

  • e-freak
    • February 8, 2007 at 3:15 PM
    • #11
    Quote from FrieChamp

    Iraqis in Afgahnistan?

    equivalent - killing here or there stays the same: murder. I thought this one would have been in Iraq...

  • DanielAragon
    • February 8, 2007 at 4:04 PM
    • #12
    Quote from e-freak

    The reason to deny military serving. It is hard for this guy to see that he killed somebody but i ask my self - he would not have felt sick if it would have been iraquis down there. What makes the difference? You kill someone, you kill because they are randomly sticked to one site and you don't ask an iraqui if he ever wanted to be in that war then you shoot him down...

    the difference is the brit isn't trying to kill you.

  • Evert
    • February 8, 2007 at 4:18 PM
    • #13

    Edit

  • Mojo
    • February 8, 2007 at 4:44 PM
    • #14
    Quote from st0lve

    They should have double-checked, since the Brits have orange marks on their vehicles.

    they more like triple checked, almost quadroupled checked. It was just made intel given to their flight controller.

  • e-freak
    • February 8, 2007 at 4:48 PM
    • #15

    -snip-

  • Skjalg
    • February 9, 2007 at 1:35 AM
    • #16

    I has to do with what you think is wrong and right.

    Killing friendlies = wrong

    Killing baddies = right

    If you dont like killing at all, you shouldnt be in the army

  • FMPONE
    • February 9, 2007 at 2:56 AM
    • #17

    At the end of the day they asked if there were friendlies around and the answer was given clearly no, the blame lies with the people responsible for providing them with adequate intel. Its pretty terribly simple then, certainly no fault of the pilots.

  • KoKo5oVaR
    • February 9, 2007 at 3:18 PM
    • #18
    Quote from Skjalg

    If you dont like killing at all, you shouldnt be in the army

    hell yeah

  • Ginger Lord
    • February 9, 2007 at 3:32 PM
    • #19
    Quote from FMPONE

    Its pretty terribly simple then, certainly no fault of the pilots.

    My dad says one of the first things he learnt in the RAF was that if you see a target with what you even think is friendly signal on it then you do not even think about firing on it.

    Especially considering now that its being very widely reported that aside from the Orange panels on the roof being displayed they also had Union Jacks on them.

    Dara O Brian summed it up nicely on "Mock The Week" a while ago:

    Quote

    British soldiers in Iraq are being shot at on a daily basis, although obviously it'll get much safer when the Americans leave and it's only the Iraqis firing at them

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