Quote from SkjalgBesides, what are you guys gonna do with all the bsp's now?
no kidding. just release them and say "they're pretty. look at them." It'll be a tribute to NW that the hardcore fans who've been following it for a long time will really like. Release them as a bonus with the finished mod later, or if that never happens.. just throw us the bsps as they are without even making it a mod. just give us bsps wads and models.
TommyD will always be a pimp
I completely disagree. I hate the fact that there's not that much singleplayer mods out there. And if you find something which is worth playing, it's too short. Of course these are just mods, but still i'd like to see some longer ones. I have a dream about making a SP mod with dev team at least over 20 leveldesigners, desent amout of modelers, one or few coders and a very good story. It should take something like 10 hours to play the game trough. I know it could become a huge disaster but maybe that could be prevented with good leadership. But hey, i can dream right :roll:
Yeah that sounds nice on paper but the reality is a bit different. Sure you can pull it off but you might as well set your aims lower and deliver an amazing experience that is not 10 hours long and actually RELEASE it rather than waste two or three years of your life working on something that was unlikely to ever see the light of day to begin with. Or you can keep dreaming.....
Yep a large quality SP mod is just very unlikely, as the dead of HL1 NW also shows. You don't just get 20 mappers for a mod. If it you manage to do they will most likely suck and/or loose interest after few months. I might sound pessimistic, but unfortunately I speak from experience...
Quote from ZackerYep a large quality SP mod is just very unlikely, as the dead of HL1 NW also shows. You don't just get 20 mappers for a mod. If it you manage to do they will most likely suck and/or loose interest after few months. I might sound pessimistic, but unfortunately I speak from experience...
Thats not what happened with NW.
Quote from von*ferretTommyD will always be a pimp
And so will you... 
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I think it would be up to Adam Foster to release the WADs, since he made at least 95% of the textures.
... and Campaignjunkie~
I aint nothing like the others, my god there were some talented people on that team.
Quote from CampaignjunkieI think it would be up to Adam Foster to release the WADs, since he made at least 95% of the textures.
I know he's providing the guys with the (usually) high-res sources currently, so I imagine a lot of them will show up in the Source version, too.
I would assume the same would be said for his chapter 2 stuff (or whatever chapter it became). I still get chills on the flyover with the non-electronic version of this track in the background.
Zacker, keep your own experience to your own projects. I don't think we lost a single person from our level staff out of lack of interest, at least not during my stay. I've been gone for nearly 2 years now and still can look through my gigs upon gigs of content and random progress shots and the like and be just as excited now as I ever was for it. Ken and I talk quite often about how much fun it was and how we miss it to this day. God, that initial team we had, even through the first round or two of expansion, absolutely shamed me and everything I've ever built. I was damn proud to call myself the worst on the team.
If we had been able to retain our original core team (well, plus an animator, maybe 
), I still believe we could have and would have nailed it. But that's not how it ended up. When other opportunities arose or more important issues got in the way, we lost people, and bringing in people took time to get up and running and that's valuable time we lost, no matter how good the results ended up being (ferret, Ben, CJ, among others, I'm looking at you ). That's by no means a dig at people we added later, who are all great minus the few deadbeats we had to deal with along the way, but for a while before people were being plucked away from us we were absolutely cranking.
I could go on and on about all the things I did wrong or could/should have done differently, but that's true for anything I've worked on on any scale. I'm happy to just leave it as a bunch of great people I had the chance to work with on something that, I dare say, turned out to be pretty damn cool. My only real regret per se looking back is that I had to leave it.
I can go back and forth on the Source decision all day just by myself, but I think the guys who are still there are set on still delivering what we set out to do, or at least roughly so (and with a far, FAR better story, phew) and for that they've got my trust and support.
Although if Adam's chapter 2 stuff doesn't get transferred over, someone will die a painful death...
Quote from kleinlukasee this is what i dont understand. 80 BSPs? Jesus people, you are making mods... not commercial games... Keep your game size small so you can actually release something.
True, however look at BM Source, if they're going to remake the whole HL1 then we're looking at over 100 bsps here 
Quote from D3adsTrue, however look at BM Source, if they're going to remake the whole HL1 then we're looking at over 100 bsps here
96. If I recall...
Thing to remember is those are, with a couple exceptions, damn small. Check out the c1a0 or whatever .rmf that shipped with the HL1 SDK - a couple of rooms and that's it. The initial plans for NW that included the 80-count were looking at maps typically close to the HL1 size, especially given the much higher texture resolution and poly counts, needed to keep load times down. They bloated a bit, as should be almost expected, I suppose, but I think final counts during my tenure were closer to low 60s, of which I think I remember 35-40 were well under way if not nearly done. But still smaller maps.
You could build a bsp or two in just a couple days under the original HL limitations.
Yeah that's true, you could probably make one map per day with that in mind...
All maps in HL1 including customs with larger textures load in about 10 seconds for me anyway 
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