I do not agree on their decission, but I guess they got their reasons. The cool thing about Nightwatch is/was how far they were able to push an old engine such as the HL engine. If they move to Source then I am afraid that it has to be really impressive before I think it was a good move.
Imo it says something about lack of proper leadership if they even after so many years of development by the most talented modders still not are able to get a public release done.
You must realize that the thing about singleplayer mods is, that you can't release it until it really is done. Because it's all about the story. You can't have a mod that suddenly just ends during a random level. Of course you can do the "episodic release" that people have been getting into.
With multiplayer you can release a beta 0.000001 and just update it as you go.
Quote from JALYou must realize that the thing about singleplayer mods is, that you can't release it until it really is done. Because it's all about the story. You can't have a mod that suddenly just ends during a random level. Of course you can do the "episodic release" that people have been getting into.With multiplayer you can release a beta 0.000001 and just update it as you go.
Well yes, but surely that would mean it'd make more sense to continue with the hl1 version, as that is substantially more "done" then the hl2 version.
Quote from spacerWell yes, but surely that would mean it'd make more sense to continue with the hl1 version, as that is substantially more "done" then the hl2 version.
I agree, it would have been nice to see something get released. The dev team probably thought it was no use in continuing work on an obsolete engine and decided to upgrade it. I hope they didn't start ALL OVER again.
Anyways, I'd hate to see Nightwatch get caught by the Duke-Nukem-Forever-syndrome 
I think I've said this a couple of times now: We will never see NW released. Zing!
yeah.. i agree. I would rather see a HL-engine release than source. they did so much work with HL, why not just see it through? I think I enjoyed HL engine more than Source anyway..
would indeed be pretty damn nice and see the whole thing for hl1 released 
soooo, now they're throwing away all this work to focus on something that is going to take twice as long to finish and looks almost identical?
Whatever, its never coming out.
wow bad decision... the hl2 version doesnt look like it is making much use of the engines capabilities. it looks like a hl1 mod with better lighting.
this is sad 
I always kind of considered Nightwatch the Duke Nukem Forever of the HL mod community. It came out really strong... and then... kinda... sat there. I vaguely remember when it was first announced that it was supposed to be a HL All-Stars mod where a lot of really creative people would get together and get the thing out in a resonable amount of time. Of course, I really can't look at it too harshly because so many of the level designers left the mod for professional jobs.
I hope the HL2 project works, but it seems like it's going to be one of two scenarios. 1) It's going to look like HL maps with a few props scattered here and there, but it gets released sooner rather than later. 2) The team will decide that's going to look bad and start from scratch, in which case it comes out in a long time.
I wish them the best, but I'm still worried about project leadership.
doesnt look so impressive on Source... They should of left it on hl1 to claim the best hl mod ever. Bad move..
Quote from kleinlukawow bad decision... the hl2 version doesnt look like it is making much use of the engines capabilities. it looks like a hl1 mod with better lighting. this is sad
Agreed.
I think when it started it was actually just a solo-project for Andrew Weldon rather than an all-stars mod, but it certainly turned into that. I think their source stuff looks good, but their HL1 stuff looked jaw dropping. I think they were fast losing their feasible release window for the HL1 engine, and so decided to give it up for lost, but I'm sad to see it happen. So much awesome content that may well just be scrapped.
I saw the new screenshots and just assumed they were HL1. This is partly because their HL1 mapping was amazing and partly because their HL2 stuff just looks pretty uninspired compared to their use of the HL1 engine. I s'pose it's only natural that it'll take the dev team a while to find their feet on source.
I was kind of looking forward to seeing how much more they could squeeze out of the HL engine, but I guess that's now history. Oh well. Best of luck to them 
outdoor pics look neat but I feel like they could push it further.
Proof that even with a team full of talent, a singleplayer mod is ridiculously hard to put together.
Here's hoping they can salvage something for Source, but I'm feeling quite cynical about this on-the-whole.
It looks cool but it will be really hard for them to impress on source engine. I mean, people expect a lot more of what they can put together at the moment, their team shrunk considerably and good looking maps with custom content take A LOT of time on source. But I'm sure they will make it.
honestly, the media, the hl1 version was more inpressive then the source, they had a rough trip people leaving for prof reasons, but i agree they should have just finished the hl1 version and be done with it, i dont see this coming out ever, but oviously i hope they prove me wrong, just if you wanna ditch all that good sometimes awsome hl1 mapping please provide us with something wow, to that extend.
If KFS was still leading Nightwatch, it would have been released a year ago. I agree that their hl2 media looks worse than their hl1 media. They should have stuck to hl1.
Worst.Decision.Ever.
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