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  • Duff-e
  • May 19, 2004 at 10:31 PM
  • Duff-e
    • May 19, 2004 at 10:31 PM
    • #1

    im looking into buying a nice digital camera or camcorder

    im kind of torn between which i want because im not sure what i would enjoy more. at first i saw one of those sony mavica cameras and thought they were great. THEN i saw a canon xls1 or whatever and thought it was amazing too. im looking to spend as much as is required, so money is no object (by this i mean less then 3k). i just want to know what camera/camcorder you would all buy if you had the money. and of course if you already have a camera, how you feel about it.

  • KidDynamite
    • May 19, 2004 at 11:19 PM
    • #2

    [Blocked Image: http://home.flash.net/~bobgil/cam/kodak2d.gif]

    It deffintally isn't state of the art but its treated me well over the years. :x

  • Duff-e
    • May 20, 2004 at 12:32 AM
    • #3

    whats that like 2 megapixels? so nub

  • Zazi
    • May 20, 2004 at 2:31 AM
    • #4

    A digital camera that has served me well is the Pentax Optio S4(http://www.pentaxusa.com/products/camer ... ctid=18283). It's small, making it very portable, and has great specs, given its size.

    If you're not completely hell-bent on digital cameras, I strongly suggest a digital SLR hybrid type of camera. Pentax makes a good one that I've used a little, and I loved it. It also offers you the advantage of getting pictures in both digital and negative formats, making it pretty damn swank. Give it a look if you're willing to spend a little money.

  • Mazy
    • May 20, 2004 at 7:29 AM
    • #5

    hmmmm~

  • JynxDaddy
    • May 20, 2004 at 8:35 AM
    • #6

    My sister has the same one as Zazi, its VERY NIOCE!@!!!!! uber small but uber good ;O lots of features n stuff to get confused over. Its the size of a credit card and about half the thickness of a deck of cards.

    Also it has OPTICAL ZOOM. digital zoom = teh gay, its the same as zoom in photoshop. nubtastic!.

  • Zazi
    • May 20, 2004 at 9:01 AM
    • #7

    Still, nothing beats a SLR. I love my ZX-60. Add a 210mm, and a 800mm lense, and you've got yourself quite the beast. Oh yeah, I also have a macro lense too, but I forget how big that one is. Oh yeah, I also modified a bit of the winding mechanisms, so instead of taking a rapid three pictures per second, I can take about ten pictures per second, but I certainly wouldn't try doing this by yourself at home.

    As Jynx man says, the Optio S4 is the size of a credit card and the thickness of a deck of cards. The optical zoom is definately a plus, as most digital cameras nowadays use a digital zoom rather than an optical zoom... no wonder so many digital cameras take shitty pictures.

  • Duff-e
    • May 20, 2004 at 9:01 PM
    • #8

    thats kind of what im looking for. im new to photo(anything) so i need/want a camera that i can pick up and use on the fly but as i get a desire to learn more advanced concepts, i dont have to drop another $600 for the feature. CAN I GET AN AMEN BROTHER?

  • Zazi
    • May 20, 2004 at 10:31 PM
    • #9

    If you're just learning photography, then I suggest a good SLR camera. Sure you can't download them to your computer instantly, but for beginners, and quality, SLR cameras are far superior to their digital counterparts. Nikon and Pentax make the best SLR cameras(and digital cameras, too) to date, so get something from them.

  • Duff-e
    • May 21, 2004 at 1:53 AM
    • #10

    could you give me a little background on what exactly an slr camera is and what it offers over other cameras? i looked around on google but only found explainations that included about 9 pages about the history of photography (its not that im not interested, its just i dont have the time to sit down and read it atm)

  • Zazi
    • May 21, 2004 at 3:50 AM
    • #11

    SLR is short for "single lense reflex"... I think. Yeah. Anyway, it's basically a high quality 35mm camera that can take different lenses and a whole lot of other shit. Advantages over digital cameras are too many to list, but you can setup your own shots... focus on certain areas in a picture, blah blah... uhm... you can switch out lenses to take close up shots, or shots miles away. What else... oh yeah, since it's film it'll offer a much higher quality than a digital camera.

    I don't know how else I could explain it to you, so yeah.

  • chips
    • May 21, 2004 at 10:05 PM
    • #12

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-lens_reflex_camera

    God bless wikipedia.

  • Duff-e
    • May 22, 2004 at 1:22 AM
    • #13

    if you actually read what i asked chips you would see that i wanted an explaination from him on what it was, not from some 300 page tutorial (like the ones i found on google) that went on and on about old cameras. BUT THANKS FOR THE REFERENCE LOVER

  • chips
    • May 23, 2004 at 5:54 PM
    • #14

    The first paragraph explains it adaquately, and there is even some pretty pictures for those of limited concentration.

  • Duff-e
    • May 23, 2004 at 6:58 PM
    • #15

    i wanted his opinion and point of view. im new to the entire field of photography so im not quite sure on what websites reviews to trust (seeing as how many of them are most likely getting paid off to promote certain brands, or at least the larger sites)

  • Zazi
    • May 23, 2004 at 9:36 PM
    • #16

    Don't listen to chips... he's mean. Anyway, if you're just starting off with photography, a SLR is definately the way to go. IMO, point-and-shoot cameras are just that... point and shoot... You have only a prayer in hell that you'll get a picture to turn out right. SLR cameras, however, almost force you to set everything up the way you want it(you have to focus manually, zoom manually, etc...). The Pentax ZX-60 is a great camera, IMHO, as it is both an automatic SLR camera, and a manual one (it can automatically focus on the subject in the reticule, for example... making it partially automatic).

    Again, another good camera manufacturer is Nikon. They make some really high quality SLR cameras as well, but I just prefer Pentax.

  • Duff-e
    • May 24, 2004 at 12:24 AM
    • #17

    i did a little shopping around this weekend looking at the prices of slr cameras and ive seen everything from $300 to $7k....what kind of prices should i be looking at considering my current skill level etc? should i go for a digital slr camera or straight 35mm? i really want the flexability of digital but if its going to cost me $500 more and force me to settle for a lower grade camera its not worth it imo.

    *edit : i also want to be able to take practice pictures and get better, which is why im so afraid of film (seeing as how each shot is $, even if you dont want it). you could argue that i shouldn't take a picture if i dont WANT the picture but i dont know.....im so confused HELP ME GOD

  • Zazi
    • May 24, 2004 at 1:59 AM
    • #18

    Digital and film SLR hybrids are still a little iffy by today's standards, especially with the fact that newer digital imaging chips which effectively double the resolution are due out later this year. I'd stick with a straight 35mm Film SLR, just because. If you're worried about film, buy it in bulk; big packages of film costs a shitload less than individual film rolls.

    As for price, it really depends on 1.) The manufacturer 2.) Features 3.) Material 4.) Quality. 4 and 1 tie together, as one manufacturer can be higher quality than another, thus increasing their prices... or something... Stick with something from Pentax or Nikon, though. A lot of features you probably won't need. If you find a SLR camera with red-eye reduction, for example, don't get it; that's a typical sign that the camera MAY use digital enhancements to fuck with the image and how your pictures are taken. Some basic things you'll probably want, are some simple automatic stuff, such as auto shutter speeds, aperature size, etc. Also, a good rapid shot feature is nice if you plan on taking sequence shots(especially handy if you're going to be taking pictures at sports games, for example). One thing that's definately required, though, is flash... but that's a given. Lets see... Most SLR cameras come with swappable lenses... shit, in fact all of Pentax's and Nikon's cameras do. Before you purchase your camera, though, find out what kind of mounting the cameras take(either screw mount or bayonette mount). Personally, I like bayonette mounts more just 'cause they're easy... as easy as Zaphod. Anyway, definately ask that. You also want to check what the maximum shutter speed is. The higher the number, the more you'll pay. I have a max shutter speed of 1/2000, and it works like a charm. I've seen some Pentax cameras go as high as 1/16000, and those cost shitloads.

    What sort of cameras were you looking at, and what sort of price range do you have in mind?

  • MrH2o
    • June 1, 2004 at 12:30 PM
    • #19

    http://%7boption%7d

    Is that good enought ?

    btw i had a Mavica, it was with discs instead of cards, it took great pic, but not many hight quality on a 3,5 disc and not hight mp (1,3)

    here is a pic i took btw

    [Blocked Image: http://www.varberg.se/~ktvsbt1/snail.jpg]

    my current cam is a Nikon coolpix 5700 and it takes really cool pic, but maybe its to advanced for a amature. however when you look at a cam, look for no less then 3 mega pixels

  • Pingu
    • June 1, 2004 at 3:31 PM
    • #20
    Quote from MrH2o

    http://%7boption%7d

    Best cam site there is... btw Canon is the ruler of digicams~~

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