Whats ur opinion about teh iran shit ?

He wants to tell us that we should all fear the Islamic and Muslim people.

Oh snap, I don't.

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Yeah, RD what where you trying to tell us with "Hmm i wonder what religion all those suicidebombers came from :roll: "??

That was a response to someone saying they wouldnt use nukes because it would be suicide. Irans president is a fan of the palestinian suicideattacks on Israel and wants to wipe it off the map. Suicide attacks come with extreme Islam, and Irans president and the mullahs are extreme or what? They have never condemned martyrs but only the opposite.

And Kosmo, the least you can do when you call me a racist is quote me. It might be hard to believe, but your whole idea that i hate muslims is based on your inability to interpret during an emotional crisis (=while reading my posts). Quote me then. Muslims are only humans, theyre not perfect and neither is Islam. They can all be criticised.

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He wants to tell us that we should all fear the Islamic and Muslim people.Oh snap, I don't.

Quote me :roll:

You just have no concept of extremism yourself, having openly agreed the cartoonists should be killed on IRC. When i say extremists, i also mean ppl with your kind of mindset, that are completely oblivious to how warped their logic has become. If you dont condemn the mere thought of punishing cartoonists in less than a nano second, you should be criticized.

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Suicide attacks come with extreme Islam

There is your racist cracker quote, shows that you not only are infact a racist, but you are very badly educated too.

What makes us any different then? There are alot of extremism going on in Christian world too, extremism not only what went down in Ireland in the past but mindless brainwashed people who think that televangelists are actually connected with god and everything like that.

And I think that if let's say, Italy or Germany was occupied by some Middle-Eastern country, say, Iran, there would be alot of crazy shit going on in Europe too. Foreign invading army next door creates little tension.

Not to mention if Switzerland was give to Hindus by Indonesia (as absurd idea as UK giving Palestinea to Jews).

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There is your racist cracker quote, shows that you not only are infact a racist, but you are very badly educated too.

Explain to me: how is "Suicide attacks come with extreme Islam" a racist remark? In order for it to be racism, it has to be a lie, so point me to it.

And how is it badly educated? The news stories staged or something?

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What makes us any different then? There are alot of extremism going on in Christian world too, extremism not only what went down in Ireland in the past but mindless brainwashed people who think that televangelists are actually connected with god and everything like that.And I think that if let's say, Italy or Germany was occupied by some Middle-Eastern country, say, Iran, there would be alot of crazy shit going on in Europe too. Foreign invading army next door creates little tension.

Not to mention if Switzerland was give to Hindus by Indonesia (as absurd idea as UK giving Palestinea to Jews).

What i think happened in your emotional outburst, is you imagine me saying that only muslims can be extreme. Trying to be politically correct you call me a racist because christian extremists do bad things too. But you know, even if christian extremists do horrible things, it is perfectly ok to point out that muslim extremists blow themselves up.

In order to defeat your confused mind, quote me saying there are no christian extremists.

As for the death of the cartoonists, they basicly signed their own deathpenalty while making those drawings. They are probably smart people, but made a HUGE mistake. You don't fuck around with 3rd world religion, cause its such a sensitive thing to them.

For myself, I wouldn't have killed them (cause I'm not a religious person), but hell I'd throw them in jail in less than a second, cause they abused freedom of speech and insulted millions (no really, but quite alot of the Muslims\Islamic people).

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You don't fuck around with 3rd world religion

By your own reasoning, you should be imprisoned at least, and most likely beheaded for insulting Islam.

Now imagine you in Norway, being in a world of shit because what you just said. You can now begin to grasp what the cartoons are all about. Do you enjoy tiptoeing around in your own country?

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What i think happened in your emotional outburst

Get down from your pedestal, that arrogant bullshit doesn't work on me one bit.

The so called "Muslim extremists" are not Muslims one bit, they are like football rioters, they don't even care who won the match, they still are going to trash the place. I bet that you think that every terrorist from Middle-East is a Muslim extremist, and that it has nothing to do with the current USA campaign in Middle-East.

You have just brainwashed yourself to believe that the terrorists usa Islam as their main reason, because it suits you just fine, you think that all people living in Islamic countries are so different from you, and that they do these things solely for religion and that they are that uneducated and misinformed, it's suits you fine, because it sets you higher than them and you can feel sorry for them because in your mind, the people didn't have any say to it, because their religion made them do it.

But in reality, they hate our guts for letting USA invade their territory, no one lifted a finger to stop them from doing it, and after we have destroyed everything, we created the situation and now we draw ridiculous pictures of their Prophet and give all the support to Israel on their quest to rid all Palestineans, without judging them at all.

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Now imagine you in Norway, being in a world of shit because what you just said. You can now begin to grasp what the cartoons are all about. Do you enjoy tiptoeing around in your own country?

I don't represent Norway in any way really. I'm an independent person with my own opinions.We have a king for a reason, to represent Norway and give a "nice" image of Norway.

Personally I buy everyday Iranian green salted pickled cucumbers and they ship to an Iranian store and I wouldn't like to loose them so it's all George Bushs fault, he started! If I will die of pain in my body without eating food for many days and drinkin my own water.

Aslong as them don't promote violence it's ok but blowing a store out with a explosion set - vest is scary and on the next day be dropped in the coffin of the cementary.

And by the way, You're all wrong.

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Personally I buy everyday Iranian green salted pickled cucumbers and they ship to an Iranian store and I wouldn't like to loose them so it's all George Bushs fault, he started! If I will die of pain in my body without eating food for many days and drinkin my own water.Aslong as them don't promote violence it's ok but blowing a store out with a explosion set - vest is scary and on the next day be dropped in the coffin of the cementary.

And by the way, You're all wrong.

Your opinions are fine enough to have, but take the time to actually form a larger argument and make a better attempt at English. This is your first warning.

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I don't represent Norway in any way really. I'm an independent person with my own opinions.We have a king for a reason, to represent Norway and give a "nice" image of Norway.

I asked: Do you enjoy tiptoeing around in your own country?

Nothing else. You said Islam is a 3rd world religion, you have agreed to your own imprisonment and death for insulting Islam. This is the kind of country you want to live in. You have agreed with the death or imprisonment of ppl that criticise Islam.

And Kosmo, first of all:

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Explain to me: how is "Suicide attacks come with extreme Islam" a racist remark? In order for it to be racism, it has to be a lie, so point me to it. And how is it badly educated? The news stories staged or something?

You called me a racist, so answer this one.

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Get down from your pedestal, that arrogant bullshit doesn't work on me one bit.

The truth isnt arrogant. You called me a racist, then quote my racist remarks. There are none, so the only logical conclusion is you had an emotional outburst. You are free to prove me wrong by quoting my racism.

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you think that all people living in Islamic countries are so different from you, and that they do these things solely for religion and that they are that uneducated and misinformed, it's suits you fine, because it sets you higher than them

Again, blinded by your emotions you imagine things i never wrote. Quote me.

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But in reality, they hate our guts for letting USA invade their territory, no one lifted a finger to stop them from doing it, and after we have destroyed everything, we created the situation and now we draw ridiculous pictures of their Prophet and give all the support to Israel on their quest to rid all Palestineans, without judging them at all.

Completely distorted the timeline here, but your point being?

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The so called "Muslim extremists" are not Muslims one bit, they are like football rioters, they don't even care who won the match, they still are going to trash the place.

So what you are saying is, as soon as a muslim commits a crime he cant be a muslim? Does extreme Islam even exist to you? Who will solve the problem of extremism in the Middle East when muslims feel it has nothing to do with them, their religion or their culture?

The logical answer is that the USA will have to deal with it themselves in any way they please. Its happening.

And how are you so sure that extreme Islam is so perfect that it has no influence over terrorists? Dont ignore this question like you have ignored all before, answer it. Why did they spend their lifes in mosques, carry Korans during their attacks, make video statements quoting the Koran, chant about Allah in the last seconds of their lifes?

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That was a response to someone saying they wouldnt use nukes because it would be suicide. Irans president is a fan of the palestinian suicideattacks on Israel and wants to wipe it off the map. Suicide attacks come with extreme Islam, and Irans president and the mullahs are extreme or what? They have never condemned martyrs but only the opposite.

Ok so you're saying that Iran is ruled by people who believe in "extreme" Islam and that's the reason they wouldn't hesitate to use nukes even if it meant their deaths?

And I say that you might be right about them using nukes even if it means their death but that any focus on their religious beliefs or how they dress or what facial hair they prefer or what their skin color is like, is missing the real reason for being hostile against Israel or whatever you don't like about "them".

Its not like Christians, Shintoists, Buddhists, Atheists or whatever haven't sacrificed themselves to kill enemies during history.

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And Kosmo, first of all:

You called me a racist, so answer this one.

Sorry but when a guy says "Suicide attacks come with extreme Islam" just sounds that you don't know jack about anything. It's like saying "Violence comes with videogame addiction" or "All who use drugs lose their jobs and do badly in their life overall".

But you are entitled to your racist remarks.

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The truth isnt arrogant. You called me a racist, then quote my racist remarks. There are none, so the only logical conclusion is you had an emotional outburst. You are free to prove me wrong by quoting my racism.

I would quote your attitude towards Muslims right here, but copy paste doesn't copy it. Ok, so prove me that you AREN'T a racist, if you are so tolerant there must be something to prove it. What is your opinion about Middle-East and Islam?

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Again, blinded by your emotions you imagine things i never wrote. Quote me.

Quote me, quote me, quote me, the fact that "quote me" is your only defence only proves that you noticed it your self too, it's nothing to be ashamed, I hate all religions and I think that people believing in them are misguided and wrong.

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Completely distorted the timeline here, but your point being?

Tell me more about your distorted timeline?

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So what you are saying is, as soon as a muslim commits a crime he cant be a muslim? Does extreme Islam even exist to you? Who will solve the problem of extremism in the Middle East when muslims feel it has nothing to do with them, their religion or their culture?

The logical answer is that the USA will have to deal with it themselves in any way they please. Its happening.

And how are you so sure that extreme Islam is so perfect that it has no influence over terrorists? Dont ignore this question like you have ignored all before, answer it. Why did they spend their lifes in mosques, carry Korans during their attacks, make video statements quoting the Koran, chant about Allah in the last seconds of their lifes?

Umm, if their religion says that "you should not kill" then when he kills he doesn't really live by the religion or believe in it. If he really was so dedicated to his religion he would follow it exactly. They are just using it as an excuse to do the stuff they are doing, and they are manipulated by their religious leaders who think that they are doing Allahs work by killing people, but I believe that it doesn't say anywhere in Koran that they should terrorise people or do what they are doing right now.

I don't think that extreme Islam is perfect, and it certainly has influenced the terrorist attacks, but extreme Islam doesn't go hand in hand with suicide bombing, neither does any other extreme thing, it's just that kind of fucked up way of thinking that led the world in to this shit in the first place, Muslims thinking that extremism is the same as terrorism and the western world thinking that extreme Islamists are the same as terrorists.

And that they chant the name of Allah when they blow temselfs up doesn't mean jack shit, if I blow myself up and chant the name of Captain Crunch does it make me extreme cereal fan or something? Those people are maniacs and in a some sort of psychosis, their actions can't be traced back to a religion or any group of people.

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Explain to me: how is "Suicide attacks come with extreme Islam" a racist remark? In order for it to be racism, it has to be a lie, so point me to it. And how is it badly educated? The news stories staged or something?

Explain how it is racist. Jesus you have been ignoring this question for 3 days now even after i asked you to explain it repeatedly .

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I would quote your attitude towards Muslims right here, but copy paste doesn't copy it.

Your copy and paste isnt working? Come on, dont give me these weak excuses. Quote my racist remarks.

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Quote me, quote me, quote me, the fact that "quote me" is your only defence only proves that you noticed it your self too, it's nothing to be ashamed, I hate all religions and I think that people believing in them are misguided and wrong.

You called me a racist, there is no other way to defend than to ask nicely where my racist remarks are. Soooo where are my racist remarks? :roll:

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Umm, if their religion says that "you should not kill" then when he kills he doesn't really live by the religion or believe in it. If he really was so dedicated to his religion he would follow it exactly. They are just using it as an excuse to do the stuff they are doing, and they are manipulated by their religious leaders who think that they are doing Allahs work by killing people, but I believe that it doesn't say anywhere in Koran that they should terrorise people or do what they are doing right now.

I don't think that extreme Islam is perfect, and it certainly has influenced the terrorist attacks, but extreme Islam doesn't go hand in hand with suicide bombing, neither does any other extreme thing, it's just that kind of fucked up way of thinking that led the world in to this shit in the first place, Muslims thinking that extremism is the same as terrorism and the western world thinking that extreme Islamists are the same as terrorists.

Islamic extremism is a violent interpretation of Islam. Do you understand that? Or did you think it was something else? It wouldnt be called extremism if they didnt do extreme things, would it? :roll: This whole discussion is about you getting the word wrong isnt it? You misinterpreted all the posts i ever wrote on this subject.

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And that they chant the name of Allah when they blow temselfs up doesn't mean jack shit, if I blow myself up and chant the name of Captain Crunch does it make me extreme cereal fan or something? Those people are maniacs and in a some sort of psychosis, their actions can't be traced back to a religion or any group of people.

When you spend your entire life worshipping Capn Crunch and you spend the last years of your life killing others while chanting his name, yes you are a Capn Crunch extremist.

But besides that, why would you even do that? Why would you fake being a Captain Crunch freak? Why would muslim extremists fake being a muslim?

The most probable and logical conclusion when you meet someone chanting Allah who is trying to cut your head off, is that he is a muslim extremist. NOT that he is part of a conspiracy from the CIA to give Islam a bad name.

Ooooh, so you think that extremism is the same as terrorism, oh ok, that makes it all fine :roll:

You can continue to live in your fantasy land where it is completely not racist to say that

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Hmm i wonder what religion all those suicidebombers came from :roll:

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Suicide attacks come with extreme Islam

Besides when you make comments like this

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The mullahs arent rational, it would be blasphemy. I think they would probably commit suicide believing its self defense.

It doesn't make you sound like a person that is educated enough to say if he is racist or not.

Face it, you have a problem against Muslims, so does thousands of others at times like this.

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Your copy and paste isnt working? Come on, dont give me these weak excuses. Quote my racist remarks.

Oh I'll quote your attitude, maybe while I'm at it make a copy of your avatar and see if that makes a clone of you, maybe if I erase your name on my computer you will change your name.

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The most probable and logical conclusion when you meet someone chanting Allah who is trying to cut your head off, is that he is a muslim extremist. NOT that he is part of a conspiracy from the CIA to give Islam a bad name.

Well, maybe you can proof me that all the suicide bombers have spent their lifes worshipping Allah then. And it was you who said anything about CIA conspiracy, not me

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Ooooh, so you think that extremism is the same as terrorism, oh ok, that makes it all fine :roll:

Muslim extremists are terrorists or wannabe terrorists, yes. What would you call the ppl on 911 then, if you cant call them extremists, cant call them muslims and cant call them middle eastern? A group of humanoids?

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It doesn't make you sound like a person that is educated enough to say if he is racist or not.

Sound being the key word. Yes, at first sight it can sound racist when you dont grasp the word extreme. But read what i actually write instead of going off your primal impulses.

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Face it, you have a problem against Muslims, so does thousands of others at times like this.

Muslim extremists :roll:

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Well, maybe you can proof me that all the suicide bombers have spent their lifes worshipping Allah then. And it was you who said anything about CIA conspiracy, not me

You were the one saying they werent muslims, which means they were pretending to be muslims, pretending to say Allah akbar for some reason that you cannot name. The burden of proof lies at you.

There are tapes of them screaming Allah akbar on the planes that crashed into the WTC. Korans were found on the bombscenes in Madrid with goodbye letters and notes, videostatements, beheadings while reading the Koran, claims of responsibility for terrorist attacks, they are all freely available on the internets.

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okay, there is no doubt that having nukes is not a good thing for them and it could spell some serios war in the future

Okay, there is no doubt that having Aircraft carriers and nukes is not a good thing for America. They interfere in other countries murdering peoples, establishes puppet governments, undermines an infrastructure, plunders natural resources, finances extremists, erases culture..

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They interfere in other countries murdering peoples, establishes puppet governments, undermines an infrastructure, plunders natural resources, finances extremists, erases culture..

Yeah, they did stop you russians from doing all those things.

Iran claims it only wants nuclear tech for civilian energy, but though the Americans have offered this (through Russia) Iran has declined.