Whats ur opinion about teh iran shit ?

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LALALALALA I LOVE ISRAEL HATE U STOLVE

Why do you love Israel? I hate Israel for their suppression of the Palestine people, with their fancy wall and that shit. Freedom of speech thank you."Restoring" Israel after WW2 is the biggest mistake EVER made after inventing weapons.

KillerTomato since you are such a smart guy, come up with something else than "have u hit ur head???!1?". That doesn't affect me in any way, so try to be constructive and teach me how to love Israel.

Skjalg, his posts was nuked for other reasons, not his opinions.

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Why do you love Israel? I hate Israel for their suppression of the Palestine people, with their fancy wall and that shit. Freedom of speech thank you.

I agree with most you say but are you sure St0lve?

Because im not.

I have no idea why Palestines and Israelis are fighting.

Palestine says Israel supressed them and Israel says Palestine started to terrorise them.

Its not easy to follow actually. And its always wrong with a wall.

But no matter who has the guns it is frightning.

May it be US, Russia, Iran, Israel, Palestine or China etc.

Its always only 1 crazy guy between peace and war in any country.

George kind of prooved (sp?) that for us.

The wrong man in the wrong place and its all done.

Spellbinder.

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Why do you love Israel? I hate Israel for their suppression of the Palestine people, with their fancy wall and that shit. Freedom of speech thank you."Restoring" Israel after WW2 is the biggest mistake EVER made after inventing weapons.

KillerTomato since you are such a smart guy, come up with something else than "have u hit ur head???!1?". That doesn't affect me in any way, so try to be constructive and teach me how to love Israel.

With their fancy wall and shit? Dude, you have no idea how moronic you sound. I'm not going to start a discussion with somebody who just hates something because 'it feels cool to hate it'. Discussions are based on facts, in wich both parties try to find the truth about a matter. You don't seem to be in search of anything, really. You just sound like a kid in puberty and as long as you come up the questions like: ''...teach me how to love Israel.'', I am not even going to try to explain to you why I think Israel is not the opressor and why your hate is unjust.

PS1: Altering quotes outside of EOT is incredible lame and shows lack of good arguments. It's called trolling.

PS2: I don't hate you. I just really don't like you. There's a difference in that.

PS3: Spellbinder, there is no Palestine. There are Judea and Samaria. Actually: the term 'Palestinian' is only referred to since '70-'85. It's origin lies in the naming of Israel before the establishment in '48, when Israel was referred to as: Palestine. Palestinians are just common arabs, really. No such thing as: 'Palestine' or: 'Palestinians', just arabs.

lol yea its ridicoulous

Tomato you are really dumb, I "altered" your quote since I didn't care to quote 10 of my own sentences, and I just summed it up. And no I don't give a fuck if its cool or not to change them.

You don't have a SINGLE argument against me, come on then, throw it at me cause right now you are just as low as me.

And look at a map, it says Palestine and not Judea and Samaria, they even have their own goverment (Hamas) incase you don't watch the news.

I have absolutely no love for Israel, but neither do I have love for Palestineans, they both play the easiest game in the world, the chips are innocent lives, but neither side loses any because they don't have anything invested.

Same thing is going on in Kashmir and Kosovo.

And I think that ANY country - mine included - and any individual that supports either theater of hatred and total lack of humanity, are total pieces of shit and should have them killed by lethal injection and their family put in to shame for thousand years.

For who in this world has the right to decide on this kind of matters? English thought that they were the kings of the world, bending under Jewish terrorist actions and now USA thinks they are the Roman Empire of the modern world where all their actions go un opposed and unjudged.

Same goes for Palestine, they think that they can murder innocent men, women and children just because they have the support of unwanting Muslim countries that don't have much of a choise because of the current political climate is "either with us or against us", religious leaders barking commands from their safe locations and bunkers to the brainwashed masses in both camps they fight a war where the loser is the one that runs first out of innocents to use as a bodyarmor and soldiers to sacrifice for cause that they don't even remember.

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Oh god, each time I visit this forum 20 posts more were nuked :SThis forum sucks now, thanks for ruining it posty! This thread was created just to proove that we were right about you and your goddamn forum. Have a nice day.

Now to quote this one thousand times so if Minos post is nuked, the message will live on *fight the powa!*

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Oh god, each time I visit this forum 20 posts more were nuked :SThis forum sucks now, thanks for ruining it posty! This thread was created just to proove that we were right about you and your goddamn forum. Have a nice day.

I deleted posts because someone had a 510x340 avatar and his posts were fucking up the forums. Not because of what he was posting.

I also deleted posts that contained lots of inflammatory off-topic pics after Fletch and I discussed that they weren't helping the civil discourse in this forums. If you want to get on moderators for moderating then by all means leave this section alone.

Thanks for the quick and harsh judgement though, let's all hop upon the bandwagon!

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Please restore my posts.

Sorry chum, your avatar got them yanked. Next time don't try to screw up the forums.

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For a guy who believes in fairy king you sure talk tough.

Fairy king?

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And you prefer the next time US was the one doing the "next time" and with nukes, missiles, bombs and what not?

Yes.

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If you haven't noticed, there isn't much of a "balance of power", but I suppose that you don't have any sense on the matter anyway, you are carefully sided with the comfortable west and all that is better for you, goes in your book.

So they should have nukes because it would balance the power?

Mommy mommy, he got nukes I wanna have some tooo, its not faaaaiiirrr!!!

*mawibse pats Kosmo on the head*

Now now Kosmo, some things just isn't fair I'm afraid, now run along and play with your Thaliban dolls.

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Exactly, side with the comfortable west against the oh so evil and cruel invaders from other countries.

Morally I’m allot closer to US then Iran.

Just such a thing as how they treat women, oh but that's just West propaganda right?

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So you and your propaganda machine keeps telling us.

Yes everything you learn in school is lies.

Oh by the way, that tinfoil hat suits you Kosmo.

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The only country that at the moment goes around the globe, bombing shit out of countries continents away is USA, you ARE welcome to prove me wrong. An as we are speaking about GLOBAL SCALE WAR the only one that has ever done it is USA.

So let’s see, Afghanistan and Iraq, yep can't be more GLOBAL SCALE WAR then that.

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If your actions are similar to Nazi's then by definition, you are a Nazi, I'm sorry if your blind fold dictionary and bible tell you other.

Yes go bend the meaning of words at a whim to inflict insult and make a moot point, that's very mature of you.

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Oh, my, you sure that stone is older than a religion?

Yes, quite.

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How did I miss a solid fact like that, I must be slipping on my old age and all..

Donno, go ask your mamma about it.

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Look, I don't care how much you lie to yourself that "religious views have changed during some years and noise like that" but the fact is that the founding pillars still remain, and as long as they remain, there will allways be hatred between religions.

Oh, you have a theory about the existence of founding pillars of religion that never change, go on and tell me all about it, this aught a be good. *grabs popcorn*

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And I think that ANY country - mine included - and any individual that supports either theater of hatred and total lack of humanity, are total pieces of shit and should have them killed by lethal injection and their family put in to shame for thousand years.

Hmm calling US Nazis and religious beliefs for believing in the fairy king is the basics in spreading love and undermine the theatre of hatred?

Way to go Kosmo.

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For who in this world has the right to decide on this kind of matters?

I think the prophet Kosmo has the way, its called lets insult and disrespect until they succumb to the love!

mawibse, kosmo, st0lve, killertomato:

I find it sad that you can't discuss a topic without insulting eachother, calling eachother names and downgrading eachother's beliefs....very nice... This discussion is going nowhere since people here can't seem to discuss a subject in a well mannered levelheaded way. Might as well lock the thread now before it gets any worse.

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Sorry chum, your avatar got them yanked. Next time don't try to screw up the forums.

This is a ridiculous reaction. You could have simply changed my avatar. As it stands the thread makes little sense with missing posts like this. Also, this post as well as yours are off-topic, so please delete them in the interest of fairness.

What did you expect when you started using that massive avatar? Try not being a troll, then your posts wont get axed. A little bit of self-moderation among our users is not too much to ask is it?

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Sorry chum, your avatar got them yanked. Next time don't try to screw up the forums.

This is a ridiculous reaction. You could have simply changed my avatar. As it stands the thread makes little sense with missing posts like this. Also, this post as well as yours are off-topic, so please delete them in the interest of fairness.

My post was explaining the outrage at the removal of yours. I can't change avatars personally and if you'd like to keep on topic now you're more than welcome to. /derail

Now on to discussion about Iran and international politics.

Klein is right, nothing is achieved through slander.

I'm sorry if I insulted anyone directly.

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Fairy king?

If my memory serves right, you are quite religious person, atleast that what one could assume from your posts. Jesus, Allah, Santa, Easter Bunny, none of them are any more valid or real than the other. Hence Fairy King.

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Yes.

Ouch, there is no nice way of saying this, but that is just horrible.

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So they should have nukes because it would balance the power?

Mommy mommy, he got nukes I wanna have some tooo, its not faaaaiiirrr!!!

*mawibse pats Kosmo on the head*

Now now Kosmo, some things just isn't fair I'm afraid, now run along and play with your Thaliban dolls.

Do you know what balance means? You might want to look that up from the dictionary. Surely one nation holding more than every other nuclear weapons bearing nation combined doesn't count as balance, especially when most of the nations belong to the "alliance" that USA is defending with them. I'm not looking for the interest of the abstract concept of alliance, my interest is in prolonging the life throghout the whole world, no matter what your religious, cultural or political beliefs.

So either, USA lose nukes or give others them aswell, you can't have balance without them, and that is just the rock solid truth that even you have to accept. And surely Iran isn't more agressive than USA, USA has good nuclear strike and dozens of battles on Iran, so warmonger?

Classy on the Taliban joke there, Hitler

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Morally I’m allot closer to US then Iran.

Just such a thing as how they treat women, oh but that's just West propaganda right?

Morally? I believe you mean culturally. Some of us believe that outside observers moral views countering the cultural and religious beliefs of the observed nations are not valid.

And I can clearly see that you have taken a hefty doze of anti-muslim propaganda, you don't see them as people anymore.

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Yes everything you learn in school is lies.

Oh by the way, that tinfoil hat suits you Kosmo.

And you believe everything your goverment and media tells you, well, the tinfoil hat suits you aswell. I'm just a tad more critical on what I'm told, I don't hold all the answers and there are so many questions unanswered, thusly I believe that something is left untold or just filled with static propaganda information. You on the other hand believe everything you are told and don't question the truth. So who can decide which one of us is closer to the truth, have the integrity to question everything you hear.

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So let’s see, Afghanistan and Iraq, yep can't be more GLOBAL SCALE WAR then that.

Global scale war has effects on global political climate and has long term effects in a major scale. You are right, it doesn't get more global than this.

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Yes go bend the meaning of words at a whim to inflict insult and make a moot point, that's very mature of you.

You asking me to call out my mom - who is btw dead, rest his soul - is equally mature of you there compadre. So who are you to decide if my actions are mature or not? It's like 5 year old talling another 5 year old "to stop being a baby".

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Yes, quite.

Again, your maturity is as overwhelming as mine.

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Donno, go ask your mamma about it.

Dare I say or are you going to guess already?

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Oh, you have a theory about the existence of founding pillars of religion that never change, go on and tell me all about it, this aught a be good. *grabs popcorn*

So you don't consider that when a religion is based on a supposedly two thousand year old document old fashioned?

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Hmm calling US Nazis and religious beliefs for believing in the fairy king is the basics in spreading love and undermine the theatre of hatred?

Way to go Kosmo.

What can I say, I calls it like I sees it. Clean your act if you want me to respect you.

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I think the prophet Kosmo has the way, its called lets insult and disrespect until they succumb to the love!

But your perception on me claiming to be the right man to decide on the matter is incorrect. And you, my equally prophetic colleague have done nothing else than "insult and disrespect until they succumb to the love" so you are in no position to judge my actions.

What do you know about Iran Kosmo?

If you want more information on the Israeli-Palestian conflict, watch "Hamas: Behind the Mask". It's a documentary about the conflict, and it was aired on the CBC's Passionate Eye a couple weeks back, look for it in reruns if you're a Canadian or if you have CBC on satelitte.

As far as Israel is concerned, they are not without their own demons and bad deeds. The Western media fails to cover it, and the Israeli government likes to hide it, but there have been many horribly bad things done to the Palestian people without consequence. Everyone is all too willing to look away -- it's handy having a pro-Western country in an entirely anti-West region.

You guys engage in ad hominem argument way too much. Let's stick to the truth, and call it a day: the people running all of our countries, whether it be Middle Eastern or West, are bat shit crazy, and the people who succeed them in running our countries, whether it be Middle Eastern or West, are going to be bat shit crazy. You might as well get used to getting fucked up the ass by your and others' politicians, it happens a lot.

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Klein is right, nothing is achieved through slander.I'm sorry if I insulted anyone directly.

Whimp.

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If my memory serves right, you are quite religious person, atleast that what one could assume from your posts. Jesus, Allah, Santa, Easter Bunny, none of them are any more valid or real than the other. Hence Fairy King.

Oh. So because you think Santa is as real as Jesus that means I believe in a Fairy King, makes perfect sense.

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Do you know what balance means?

Yes.

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You might want to look that up from the dictionary.

You mean the dictionary where Nazi = USA?

Sorry, don't have that one.

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Surely one nation holding more than every other nuclear weapons bearing nation combined doesn't count as balance, especially when most of the nations belong to the "alliance" that USA is defending with them. I'm not looking for the interest of the abstract concept of alliance, my interest is in prolonging the life throghout the whole world, no matter what your religious, cultural or political beliefs.So either, USA lose nukes or give others them aswell, you can't have balance without them, and that is just the rock solid truth that even you have to accept.

???? Okok so your saying that if everybody has nukes the balance (of nukes?) will prolong all life?

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Classy on the Taliban joke there, Hitler

Heheh, thanks I thought it was pretty clev... hey! Did you just call me Hitler??

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Morally? I believe you mean culturally. Some of us believe that outside observers moral views countering the cultural and religious beliefs of the observed nations are not valid.

Ok, I'm culturally closer to US then Iran, big deal.

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And I can clearly see that you have taken a hefty doze of anti-muslim propaganda, you don't see them as people anymore.

You know that they eat babies for fun and constantly rapes white virgins, right?

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And you believe everything your goverment and media tells you, well, the tinfoil hat suits you aswell.

Don't need a tinfoil hat if I'm already brainwashed by the secret government agencies do I?

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I'm just a tad more critical on what I'm told, I don't hold all the answers and there are so many questions unanswered, thusly I believe that something is left untold or just filled with static propaganda information.

I think the scientific term is "conspiracy nut".

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You on the other hand believe everything you are told and don't question the truth. So who can decide which one of us is closer to the truth, have the integrity to question everything you hear.

What do you think I'm doing right now?

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Global scale war has effects on global political climate and has long term effects in a major scale. You are right, it doesn't get more global than this.

I think you confuse how much publicity a war has with its global effect.

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You asking me to call out my mom - who is btw dead, rest his soul

Auch, im sorry. My condolences.

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So who are you to decide if my actions are mature or not? It's like 5 year old talling another 5 year old "to stop being a baby".

Stop being such a baby!

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So you don't consider that when a religion is based on a supposedly two thousand year old document old fashioned?

Not if you compare it to a stone.

And so what, the idea of "free will" is allot older, doesn't mean you don't believe in it?

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What can I say, I calls it like I sees it. Clean your act if you want me to respect you.

My act will be as clean as yours.

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But your perception on me claiming to be the right man to decide on the matter is incorrect. And you, my equally prophetic colleague have done nothing else than "insult and disrespect until they succumb to the love" so you are in no position to judge my actions.

What can I say, I calls it like I sees it.

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What do you know about Iran Kosmo?

Not as much as I know on the the Far East region I'm afraid, they are being secretive in their actions. I can fairly say that when coming to China/Japan/Korea axel, Indochina and India I know everything, but Middle-East is secretive on their part.

And to you Mawbise, I just can't help you dude, you are way too off the course for me to help you on your endeavours. Sorry man, I really hope that you hit a book or something.

No worries Kosmo, I'v got the perfect book.

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Surely one nation holding more than every other nuclear weapons bearing nation combined doesn't count as balance

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/summary.htm

US Stockpile: 10,640

Russia Stockpile: 16,000

Check 'deliverable'

I get it.. Stockpiles of nukes don't count...