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So how is this with work visa for the USA?

  • Steppenwolf
  • December 22, 2005 at 12:22 AM
  • Steppenwolf
    • December 22, 2005 at 12:22 AM
    • #1

    I got a job offer from a acknowledged american games company as Level Designer. But honestly i doubt that i would get a work visa for the USA if i say yes. I don't have a university degree or something. I'm 27 now.

    Has anyone experience with that? Are there ways this could work?

  • ginsengavenger
    • December 22, 2005 at 12:28 AM
    • #2

    Does the company have experience with getting visas for people? That's probably the first thing you should ask.

  • skdr
    • December 22, 2005 at 12:31 AM
    • #3

    Do you have a college degree?

    edit: doh I just read your post again and you said you don't have it. I guess youre out of options then

    What company is it?

  • Steppenwolf
    • December 22, 2005 at 12:57 AM
    • #4

    I'm about to find out if they have experience with visa stuff and supporting industry noobs (haven't worked yet in the games industry and a foreign country).

    I don't have much hope tho that i would get a visa. I have informed myself about that some time ago when i applied for a different company and it didn't looked good. I just thought that maybe someone here knows a way that could work, that i haven't read about.

  • Fletch
    • December 22, 2005 at 1:11 AM
    • #5

    The good news:

    You're working in a highly specialized field.

    The bad news:

    No long-term employment history in the field and no degree in the field.

    If Company X has a history of acquiring visas, you might be in a better position.

  • mikezilla
    • December 22, 2005 at 1:45 AM
    • #6

    Canadian companies it's still possible. With American companies it has now become almost completely impossible. The company that is offering the job would have to go to bat major big leagues time for you, and spend a LOT of money in the process... and even then it's a long arduous crapshoot.

  • Fletch
    • December 22, 2005 at 1:51 AM
    • #7

    /me hugs the Patriot Act

  • Bic-B@ll
    • December 22, 2005 at 3:22 AM
    • #8

    fly to mexico and follow the line going north

  • Tequila
    • December 22, 2005 at 3:38 AM
    • #9
    Quote from Bic-B@ll

    fly to mexico and follow the line going north

    That's that last we'd hear of Stepp.

  • kleinluka
    • December 22, 2005 at 5:08 AM
    • #10

    OK here's the short version:

    requirements for H1B temporary work visa:

    - 4 year university degree OR 3 years of related work experience for every missing year of college -> 12 years.

    There is an annual quota limit on this type of visa so only 65000 can be handed out every year (so the most qualified people are selected, the rest is refused)....

    There's also the O1 visa but that is impossible to get unless you have won internationally recognized awards like the grammy.

    For a full explanation on all visa types and their requirements, go here:

    http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20030425/rose_pfv.htm

    The information there is from April 24, 2003 so some things might have changed but it gives you a good idea of how hard it is to get a work visa for the US.

    Oh and before anyone says "JUST GET MARRIED TO AN US CHICK".... visa officers aren't stupid... They are required to view your relationship like you're faking it for immigration purposes when they process applications and it is YOUR responsibility and obligation to prove visa officer wrong by providing proof like letters from bank showing joint bank account for at least 1 year, holiday photos, bills, statements from neighbors and employers, and so on.... so forget about that

    Steppe, ask your company if you can work offsite contract.... That's what IR did with Valve when they couldn't bring him over.

  • Thrik
    • December 22, 2005 at 6:48 AM
    • #11

    Heh, Klein. That article at the bottom of the page is slightly depressing.

    Quote

    Ultimately I decided against continuing the battle, though. I had depleted almost all of my financial resources, I was wary of entering a long legal case that I might not win, and I had just received a solid offer from Acclaim in the UK. As such, I felt it better to cut my losses.

    Quote

    Looking back, I try to view the experience as character forming. Perhaps I was naive about United States public officials. But I can't complain too much: my career in the UK has prospered since I returned from the United States.

    Wonder what he's doing now.

  • kleinluka
    • December 22, 2005 at 7:26 AM
    • #12

    I like this one too

    Quote

    A "Brazil"-like story recently emerged from the INS California Service Center regarding one immigration official's creative approach to reducing backlogs. The INS measured the productivity in their mailroom by how quickly they processed applications, from the time of receipt to the time of ultimate approval or denial. The INS California Service Center was running behind the desired rate, which was going to reflect badly on the people responsible for processing cases through the mailroom. Accordingly, the supervisor in charge of the INS mailroom decided to shred 90,000 immigration applications stacked up on their shelves. This did wonders to reduce the backlog and produced a seemingly great productivity rate. It was, of course, not great for the foreign nationals whose applications were shredded, and it took took months to straighten out the mess.

  • Minos
    • December 25, 2005 at 7:01 PM
    • #13

    I told you should have gone to college stepp

    No seriously, raise the middle finger to the US immigration laws, and apply at some european or canadian studio. I bet your chances will be a lot higher.

  • Taylor
    • December 26, 2005 at 1:37 AM
    • #14

    Do two 2 year diploma's count as one 4 year diploma?

  • von*ferret
    • December 26, 2005 at 1:49 AM
    • #15

    probably not

  • kleinluka
    • December 27, 2005 at 3:57 AM
    • #16
    Quote from Taylor

    Do two 2 year diploma's count as one 4 year diploma?

    no

  • Zacker
    • December 27, 2005 at 7:25 PM
    • #17

    This thread is quite depressing to read. One of my dreams have been to travel to the USA and work for some game developer compana over there when I am done with high school in half a year. I knew that getting a job would be very tough, but I had not really thought of that getting a work visa would be a problem.

    After reading this thread and especially the article Kleinluka linked, it seems 110% impossible that I would get a work visa anytime soon:( If I think of that and my chance to get a job over there, then I should probably just try to win in the lottery or something:D

  • Taylor
    • December 28, 2005 at 2:31 PM
    • #18
    Quote from kleinluka

    no

    Fucksocks.

  • st0lve
    • December 28, 2005 at 3:34 PM
    • #19

    Um, if you imigrate to the us in an illegal way, are you then allowed to work at a game company? As in honest work?

    Cause then it might be worth a shot to go to mexico.

  • IR
    • December 28, 2005 at 3:46 PM
    • #20

    yeh I've been there, valve couldnt get me over to the Usa because of the awsome imigrations law even though valve had done it before, and has some prety good lawyers I did had some experience in the field and some creditted certificates , so i stayed as a contractor. canada isnt so uptight about the visa "yet" took me about 2 weeks to get it (extremly fast)

    best of luck,

    stepp

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