King Kong

    I absolutely loved every minute of it, sure it has it's flaws but it's still a damn great movie.

    Pop quiz: This is actually the second Kong remake produced, an utterly awful adaptation was released in the 80's.

    Really awesome movie, although I must admit that I agree with many of Fletch's points. The most obvious one being pacing and length. There was really alot of stuff that could easily be cut. When you make a 3hour+ movie I think you really need a good reason to put in that extra hour or so (except if you're just showing off in some extended version~LOTR).

    But it was a really kickass movie, kong was fucking amazing, truely stunning stuff. A truely touching tale. Also one thing that I had feared and had heard was that Jack Black would totally stick out in it, which he didnt. Did a really good job, except for the part where he gets his picture taken, that JB stare, hmmmm.

    Anyway ill wait till tomorrow with my final verdict, need to sleep on this one

    Copy/paste job from another forum :

    hrrmm, I liked it muchly. It was however, too fricking long. The stuff in New York was somewhat 'bleh' for me and there were sections in the jungle that felt surplus to requirements as well. I think the relationship between Kong and Ann is given way, way too much attention. You get the point after about the 30th lingering close-up. Over than that - great. Action squences superb, Kong brilliant, Jack Black was very, very good indeed and the direction was great. I loved the first hour of the film before they set out, but the film could do with harsher editing in the middle and at the end.

    So, yeah, I agree with Fletch about most of that. The plausability bit didn't bother me overly, there's a fucking 30 ft ape, so my belief is pretty much suspended right there. The dinos were a bit bunk though.

    I thought it was pretty amazing. Once they reach the island it's just one ridiculously good scene after another. Especially the scenes between Ann and Kong which could have been over done or awkward but they worked really well.

    I wasn't at all bothered by the length either. I guess some stuff could have been trimmed but when a giant gorilla is battleing three T-Rex's while suspended over a chasm by vines I'm not exactly checking my watch.

    I pretty much despised it so greatly I went a bit limp halfway through. The characters seemed to be making choices (through UNBELIEVABLY BAD DIALOGUE) that resembled that of people in horror movies. AKA what's the most obvious way to get myself killed for the stupidest reason possible.

    Some examples:

    -What 18 year old kid in their right mind after seeing 20 FUCKING DINOSAURS GET IN A FIGHT AND DIE and many of his shipmates, whom he asummedly cares about, decides now is the time to prove himself? He gets so caught up in trying to convince his superiors that he can fight that it becomes ridiculous, even to the point of trying to prove himself to a man that's already dead. What? Also HE NEVER DOES. They capture Kong and it just peters out, he never appears again.

    -Naomi Watts constant decision making process of "what stupid stunt can I pull on the edge of a 1000 foot cliff or empire state building." She does a FLIP, I shit you not, onto ROCK to make King Kong laugh... like 7 inches from the edge of a cliff.

    In other words I pretty wrote off every character in the movie for motivations that don't make any sense at all. Including Kong himself. It's shown early in the movie what Kong does with all the barmaids that the disgusting raisin-faced islanders give him. He kills them.

    So lemme get this straight Naomi's Watt's annoying bad character... He's killed all the girls before you... he's killed half the crew you grew to love and dance with on the ship (which is made a big point early on.) He tried to kill your love interested Jack a NUMBER of times. He's kills hundreds if not thousands in New York. AND YOU STILL ARE LIKE OMG SRSLY DONT KILL HIM PLZ!

    You lady are retarded and deserve to die.

    Seconding Fletch's WORST MOVIE I'VE SEEN ALL YEAR

    "YOU WANT ME? TAKE ME. TAAAAKE MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!"

    I think stones about bad dialogue should remain pocketed until further notice

    It's a dumb B movie action flick that can take itself a little too seriously at times and goes on a little too long for its own good, but it's not the worst movie I've ever had to sit through. That award goes to Left Behind.

    Quote from The Postman

    "YOU WANT ME? TAKE ME. TAAAAKE MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!"I think stones about bad dialogue should remain pocketed until further notice

    Oh I'm sorry you tried to nullify my points by insulting my work. That's a really prick thing to do. As if to imply by one line that was misdelivered, by one of you friends no less, somehow makes me a bad writer whose opinion about any particular piece of dialogue is somehow moot.

    But hey, you're obviously right. You made a fairly innocent thread about a movie where we could share opinions; into a personal attack. Having now seen the light, King Kong was obviously great.

    Thanks Ted.

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    Oh I'm sorry you tried to nullify my points by insulting my work. That's a really prick thing to do. As if to imply by one line that was misdelivered, by one of you friends no less, somehow makes me a bad writer whose opinion about any particular piece of dialogue is somehow moot.

    But hey, you're obviously right. You made a fairly innocent thread about a movie where we could share opinions; into a personal attack. Having now seen the light, King Kong was obviously great.

    Thanks Ted.

    Oh McThreeway, come on man, it was just a playful jab in the ribs. I meant no harm by it, man. Sorry for ruffling your feathers.

    um....

    Overall: a lot of interesting ideas in different areas of film thrown together in a giant clusterfuck of a movie that i'll never want to see again, despite enjoying some parts of it greatly. (by contrast, i own all 3 SE's of LotR). Anyway...basically what Fletch said.

    My Analysis:

    - Shitty writing. All around. I guess they were going for more of a *nod* or *wink* to the original Kong but I only saw that once like 8 years ago and I think a lot of the nods/winks didn't really work. Sure, the nod to Fay Rae (original female lead in 1933 Kong) was cute...but whatever. So many story threads left unclosed you end up not caring about the whole of it. (ok...not really different from Fletch's points...)

    - Worst character development evarrr At least in LotR the characters develop and have some complexity about them.

    - To many bugs I didn't think all the bugs and the Penis Monsters were really that needed. Cool in concept, but I just looked away cause I just had a Macho Combo platter at El Torito before the movie. But the excessive nastiness was not needed for a mass mainstream LotR-esque audience. It's okay to do some grossout-ness but they went over the top and too far to keep many people's eyes on the screen. At one point i looked back during the festival of bugs and most people were holding their hands over their eyes. Nice job, Peter. And this links too...

    - WTF? Jello dinosaurs? Yeah those tumbling brontosaurusususususes must have been a cool concept on paper but on film, that whole scene annoyed the shit out of me. Those tiny humans would all have been squashed. (And the dinosaurs looked shitty.) The scene went on and on and on, i just couldn't take it. Remember that Godzilla movie that came out in the late 90's? There was this 20 minute chase scene that made a shitty movie even shittier. This tumbling jello-dinosaur scene had the same effect. Oh yeah, so did the bug scene.

    I did like the stuff in NY (the scene in the park on the ice wasn't too bad.)

    I thought Kong itself looked good and the fight with the T-rex(es) was crazy and bullshit, but actually entertaining and probably my favorite action part.

    Bah...movie did about $66million or so in the US in first 5 days? I heard industry analysts were expecting about $100 million. Put it in perspective, would rather see LotR (any of the 3) in theatre again than Kong.

    I think the biggest tragedy about the movie is that Kong is really the most interesting character and he has no dialogue and at the end, is just a big ape.

    Just saw it.

    AWESOME movie! Im not going to write a novel about it but it was definately one of the best movies I've seen. CGI was awesome, specially Kong's expressions etc. Also they had a nice CGI Chicago (was it?) modeled.

    5/5

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