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Looking for Looters ?

  • MrH2o
  • September 6, 2005 at 6:41 PM
  • MrH2o
    • September 6, 2005 at 6:41 PM
    • #1

    I just saw this

    http://%7boption%7d

    and i cant help to laugh, not for the situation but for the police "exuse". And Ive also (with risk of sounding racistic) notice that most of the people you see (in this case all people in the video) are black, I dont know the % of blacks in that area so I would leave it at that, and I've also point out that this is just something i reflected about and its no need to lock the topic.

  • insta
    • September 6, 2005 at 6:54 PM
    • #2

    As I understand it, most of the people "left behind" were black and poor. They had no money or ways to get out of the area, so they had to stay.

  • MrH2o
    • September 6, 2005 at 7:01 PM
    • #3

    Im kinda twisted in the situation, one side of me understands that the poor people who lost the little they owned wants new stuff. The other side is upset over how they just think that it belongs to them. maybe RIIA will use this in thier anti-wares campain ?

  • seppe
    • September 6, 2005 at 8:19 PM
    • #4

    keep in mind you only see what the news papers, telvision etc shows.

    have you been at that place and have you seen that only Black people were looting?? I think the movies on the internet etc only show black people stealing and white people ' finding ' food etc.

    there are a lot of racists in america so i wouldn't be suprised it's true

  • Kosmo
    • September 6, 2005 at 8:57 PM
    • #5

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  • von*ferret
    • September 7, 2005 at 2:25 AM
    • #6

    I've seen pictures of "scavengers" carrying off plasma TV's, dvd players, all the shiz electronics, even a small toy electronic car for todlers. If they put the ingenuity into stealing this stuff without destroying it you'd think they would be able to put that smarts into getting out of a city by stealing one of the hundreds of school busses and govermnet vehicles that were left behind to rott. If the local government had acted like their field manual told them too though, there would be no poor black victims because all of the government vehicles that are now rotting, would've hauled them out (or at least 50,000 people).

    I've seen pictures of a number of ex-marines who patrol their neighborhoods with loaded weapons looking for looters and are shooting them on sight. Hell yeah! Get caught with anything but food and water and you should be shot. Harsh, but this is a disaster, not a free shopping day.

    An amusing picture even showed an ex marine offering shotgun shells to the national guard lol.

  • Tequila
    • September 7, 2005 at 3:04 AM
    • #7
    Quote from von*ferret

    Harsh, but this is a disaster, not a free shopping day.

    Harsh? It's human fucking life, man. Just tell them to drop it. Ask questions first, shoot later (if at all).

  • Izuno
    • September 7, 2005 at 6:05 AM
    • #8

    um....yeah I am a little confused. Sometimes sarcasm doesn't always translate well, though I'm not sure if I'm detecting sarcasm or not.

    You really want to shoot them first, ask questions later? No you're just messing around...right? Whatever.

    Kosmo: Is that really real? That makes it look pretty damn biased on AP's part.

    In general there is so much hate on internet I can't tell what's real anymore.

  • ginsengavenger
    • September 7, 2005 at 6:10 AM
    • #9

    Yeah, it's real. But the AP has consistently labeled *anyone* taking stuff from stores as looters, to me it seems the AFP are automatically forgiving the whites and therefore more biased.

    some commentary:

    http://www.boingboing.net/2005/08/30/bl ... ot_wh.html

  • mikezilla
    • September 7, 2005 at 8:04 AM
    • #10

    I hope when we're all totally fucked over by a natural disaster that claims members of our families and friends, we can all think as level headed as ferrett.

    You're an example to us all.

  • Kosmo
    • September 7, 2005 at 8:32 AM
    • #11

    Izuno: I think it's real.

    I don't care if dudes are carrying off plasma tvs and dvd players. What the fuck is with people obsessed with material? People shooting looters? Hell yeah, that is right, good excuse.. I hope those fucking jerkoffs who shoot people are caught, put on a line, shot and buried in a nameless mass grave.

    It's a disaster, people die, human lifes are still in danger, homes gone, relatives dead, everything is fucked up, and there are people shooting each other? And that is right? Ok, everyone who thinkgs that is right, pick up your monitor, lay your head on the table, and drop the monitor on your head, if you are still alive, repeat.

  • rockdude86
    • September 7, 2005 at 10:30 AM
    • #12

    http://www.zippyvideos.com/891102377101 ... n-walmart/

    even the cops are looting!

  • Kosmo
    • September 7, 2005 at 10:56 AM
    • #13

    I understand the "looting" for necessities like food and water, maybe dry clothes so you don't get sick and all. But people picking up microwave owens and tvs is just bit over the top. Guy hauls a tv out and remembers "oh, right, my house was destroyed on the hurricane and I have so food, well atleast I don't miss the rerun of M.A.S.H."

  • Evert
    • September 7, 2005 at 11:04 AM
    • #14

    Kosmo could you please not ask everyone with a different opinion to die and please just shut the fuck up. You can't ask for people to respect your opinion if you can't run a discussion without respecting others!

    How the hell can people wish for others to die like life isn't worth jack shit.

    All this eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth bullshit, it just shouldn't work like that in a free country!

    I'm not taking the looters' part, but I have more understanding for their actions then someone murdering another human beeing.

    Although, unlike Kosmo I don't want these murderes shot, since I don't believe in violence to beat violence.

  • Kosmo
    • September 7, 2005 at 11:25 AM
    • #15

    Evert, I'm sorry, but I just can't respect people who don't respect human life, I don't believe that anyone here is such a cold hearted person that he would rather kill a guy than let him loot a fucking store.

    I agree that looting peoples homes is just plain wrong, but ripping off some wall-mart or something is not something worth killing for.

    And taking a life, to me is the ultimate crime, especially in situation like this, a guy carrying a tv from a store and some wacko comes and shoots him. There is no bigger crime than that.

    But hey, like you said, a free country, people should be free to kill people with minimal penalty, WHERE IS THE FREEDOM TO LIVE IN THERE!

    I can understand the looters, there are no insurance or social security to take care of you after this is over, you are on your fucking own. And for the big stores that get looted (not sure abot the smaller ones tho), insurance will cover most of their losses, and I don't think that a big chain will go belly up if one of it's stores is looted.

  • The Postman
    • September 7, 2005 at 5:24 PM
    • #16
    Quote from von*ferret

    I've seen pictures of a number of ex-marines who patrol their neighborhoods with loaded weapons looking for looters and are shooting them on sight. Hell yeah! Get caught with anything but food and water and you should be shot.

    YEAH DOOD THAT IS SO AWESOME LIKE WOW! SHOOTING PEOPLE IS COOL!!!! :derp:

    Quote from von*ferret

    Harsh, but this is a disaster, not a free shopping day

    Yeah and vigilante justice measured out by military trained gun nuts is just peachy keen and never influenced by personal prejudices. Personal defense is one thing, killing people over a TV that was lifted from a Wal Mart is just fucking inane.

  • Kosmo
    • September 7, 2005 at 5:28 PM
    • #17

    Taken up a speed trial, I guess you could get a deathsentence for stealing :roll:

  • Izuno
    • September 8, 2005 at 5:19 AM
    • #18
    Quote from Kosmo

    Taken up a speed trial, I guess you could get a deathsentence for stealing :roll:

    like a drumhead.

    Yeah i've been reading more of the stories online and talking with a lot of other friends...they have noticed the same "black=looting" and "white=scrounging or finding or recovering" stories.

    Regardless of all that, I would love to see some indepentent reporting on the reporting...if possible. I'm curious how and where the media's biases are affecting our interpretation of events.

    I am in Chicago right now on vacation. My sister and I are organizing a neighborhood food/supplies collection to be shipped down to New Orleans area on Friday. It's not much, but I think it will help my sister cope after seeing these devestating images on TV and felling like she couldn't do anything about it.

  • Kosmo
    • September 8, 2005 at 7:27 AM
    • #19
    Quote from Izuno

    It's not much, but I think it will help my sister cope after seeing these devestating images on TV and felling like she couldn't do anything about it.

    I think the same feeling is going through us all, just deposited some money on Red Cross collection, I guess I won't be eating for a week, but I guess it's a small misery compared to them on New Orleans.

  • DaanO
    • September 10, 2005 at 6:00 PM
    • #20

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