I was just wondering if any of you had some tips, or rules even, when you are creating a map for CS? every time I try to make a map, it just turns out to have a horrible layout, and that results in me never finishing a map.
Layout tips and musts
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Draw it out on paper first that way it's easier to plan and erase and redraw. Play through it in your mind as you draw. Try to imagine the gameplay mechanics of certain areas. DONT focus on theme/art. Make something that looks absolutely ugly but plays like a dream. Once it plays good, then make it look good.
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thanks fritz, that was extremely helpful!
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If you're building a bomb map, just make the positions of spawns and bombsites form a cross like +. Put the spawns left and right and bomb sites up and down, most official de_maps with a working layout have this. Most that don't work have something else.
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Good link, CompoSITe is working at Infinity Ward now on their next big game

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A basic Figure 8 in the layout is good. It's what Dust 1 and 2 have.
and I saved some advice from CrackerJack for DM maps, but it might be of use to you.
Quote(Crackerjack): height variation(Crackerjack): every room/hallway should have 3 ways out
* DaNose slaps Cyberjunkie around a bit with a large trout
(Crackerjack): and weapon placement
What I hear everywhere, the figure 8, and cross thing like grin said. A basic shape or pattern that is symmetrical for balance.
I hope that helps.
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Pity CJ didn't take his own advice on board when making dm_ominous

Only joking cj, don't hit me!!! You know its true though

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thanks alot guys!

expect some WIP shots soon, since I've actually gotten a layout that I'm confident with this time, thanks to you

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Cracker jack was just quoting me
I pity the fool.jk cya on the 12th cj
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no kidding :]
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Don't mess with the r speeds

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wtf?
Yeah figure 8, or several 'rings' that connects larger rings are a good "rule".
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rspeeds 4 lyfe.
Someone should make a sweet avatar for the oldschool hl1 mappers... however some of us have mapped some doom so... I retract my statement.
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Pity CJ didn't take his own advice on board when making dm_ominous
Only joking cj, don't hit me!!! You know its true though 
OMG I KILL YOU>>>!>!!??!?!
Though this is a very old post... while searching for a certain post I happened to come across this.. Btw hate you all?!?! hahaha..
No but your right... thats how I learned that advice though

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Wow. Nice read!

Oh man, I want to map so much now! No time, unfortunatly.

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i want to map but dont have the computer to work on =( boooo
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Yeah, I have an urge to map as well, but Hammer is borked beyond belief.
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