game art - cartoony hill

    One thing that bugs me about these forums...never know if to post into models or textures...I never JUST model something or JUST texture it...

    aaaaanyway, I did a cool doodle on a train the other day and thought it would suit this project. This project is about me showing I can do toony textures, hopefully.

    The main core of the idea is that there is a big fish tank within the hill/mountain. You will be able to see fish and scenery in it etc. I'm thinking to maybe make it a seafood resturant. I'll keep you updated!, feel free to crit.

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    Looking nice. I feel the main upper section is lacking in detail though - its a bit unbalanced maybe, going by the number used on the entrance into the rock.

    As for the model/texture dilemma - I think a model, either unskinned or skinned, belongs in models. Anything solely 2D - be it a texture, or a model skin that you didn't actually model (hard one to judge perhaps), or a piece of concept art, is probably best for the 2D art section. There are plenty other people who seem to face the same confusion though, its kinda mix and match

    I don't model THEN texture...I sort of keep tweaking/adding to both at various times. But to me this project is about the textures so I figured it suited this thread best. Also the model is quite simple.

    ReNo Thanks, I agree with the unbalanced. As I just said, I'll probably add modeling/objects later. Not sure what to do with that top part, originally it was supposed to have resturant tables etc but well...thats just TOO daft. Any ideas what to have there? As for other things I may add statues onto the hill and make a big resturant sign...

    Friechamp Thanks, I hope I can do the concept justice...

    Elliot Thanks...see above.

    csharp Thanks

    Pericolos0 Thanks

    ok, I need some advice. 2 things...

    1) Firstly, how would a fish tank be done in todays games? By this I just mean the glass and water. What I've done here is add specular and opacity to polys. Is this really dated? Maybe I could do a animated texture with bubbles etc?, maybe a rotating cylinder with light clouds...

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    2)During my last project (old pier) I got a lot of crits about the lo res textures. Before I get fully into the texture job what do you make of the following...the square is a 512x512. I really have no idea if this is too hi res or low res...

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    I'd have the base of the cylinder with a smaller radius then the top. So it has that cartoony misproportion. Same with the shade, have the support beams angle out and slightly off balance.

    The thing is, theres different types of cartoony...I'm not going for 'wacky' cartoony (there really should be official names for types of cartoons) such as bendy houses and what not. I'm trying to do something thats a bit more real.

    Check this out, is this 'alien' mountain texture ok?...it reminds me of something from either a Robocod game or that B.O.B from the 16bit days but theres a little voice in my head going "NO...WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?!?!?"

    is it cool...or just...wrong?, be honest please...

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    I think its too close a hue to the rest of the texture, its very orangey.

    Also it looks like pudding as there are no 'breaks' in the rock structure, it just folds over other areas, giving the sludgey or chocolate pudding effect

    Loving it so far btw

    i think it'd be much cooler if you actually made it out of PUDDING. like actual pudding, maybe with chocolate chips.

    that would own. right now it looks very lose and undefined.. makes me wander what it is supposed to be. gj tho

    lol, christmas pudding!!...

    Yep, that insult was the final straw in making me see my errors. I've made it more 'rocky' while trying to keep the previous style. I could go on for ages about all the difficulties I've had with this but I'll just show you what I have at moment. Its very nearly done but just wanted to run this past you before I spend a day polishing/adding to it. Obviously, the fish tank isn't working yet so any advice for that would be in particular be appreaciated.

    Just rip into anything about it basically, I won't mind!

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    csharp Why do you not like the blue? Is it because it doesn't work with the design or because theres no such thing as blue rock?

    Pericolos0 That it looks like it has a blanket drapped over it is a big concern of mine too. I might take out all the highlights but I'm wondering if I need to add bumps etc into the modeling of those parts.

    Oski I might try out 3 more colour schemes, put em next to each other. Or I could just make up a story about this being for a smurf game.

    daano By cut off do you mean you want a area of floor around it? If I have time I may do that...a fence around it would be nice also...

    stolve I like the blue also, I just think its a bit too overpowering. I think it needs more red/warm elements to balance out. At moment it looks like a blue thing with 2 red things stuck on it.

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