Praise Relic, Hallelujah!

Last year there was an absoulte shitload of vietnam war based games

We need more wars on this planet!

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Actually there were enough wars that could be used in games, e.g. the Korean War, the Bosnian War, many wars in Afrika as well as in South Amerika and last but not least, the war in Iraq. Well, I guess the reason why so many developers prefer WWII is simply because the second part of the war (when the USA came into play) is being considered by most people for a "good" war, because it was all about kicking Hitler's ass and that can't be a bad thing.

Other wars are more controversial, that's probably the reason why many game companies want to stay politcally correct and choose a "good war" for their games.

Just to burst ur balloon Sensee, it was mostly the Russians which kicked hitlers ass. America lost like half a million troops, russians around 25million. But then again, Russian soldiers were almost just as bad for germans as the nazis were for jews, but i cant blame em=) I would like to play a game this brutal

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Yes, I know perfectly well that common soldiers and the average street person were not Nazis nor did they support the acts that they did, but if you think about it, there has not been a single Nazi in RTS or FPS games since the days of Wolfenstein and Spear. So why did they leave them off?

In these "realistic" games you never attack and save people from concentration camps nor do they tell you about the things that went down behind the closed door with Himmler and his SS. So now we have kiddies who think that WW2 was cool because of Tom Hanks and his Band of Brothers series. All people who have studied WW2 do not think it was that glamorous, just like RD said, american soldiers were mostly kids with no idea what they were doing and SS had some very sick agenda.

Maybe it is just me and maybe I'm wrong for hating WW2 and people who make it so glamorous, because when I watched those documents I got sick and almost threw up, and that is the effect those games should have, to remind us of what it really was, and not to entertain us.

But yeah, now if those games were as brutal as they should, they wouldn't make them, and actually, that would be way better.

I hear ya, but often times the units who were the hardcore Nazi supporters weren't anywhere near the frontlines. Thats not exactly handy for a war game, after all. If we're trying to be historically accurate, you wouldn't really run into these units in a game like Call of Duty, Medal of Honor or Brothers in Arms. Seeing as how these games (outside of BIA) are already borderline arcady and hold very loosely to history, I don't see a reason why they wouldn't implement Nazi-ized soldiers outside of the fact that many people find it offensive and the swastika is banned in Germany.

But yeah, I know what you're saying. If you've got an adrenaline meter, boss battles and other arcady shit like that, why wouldn't they throw some Nazi scum into the mix as well? I don't know.

Personally I don't get the WWII is old argument. Its not the setting you hate, its the games. There are 2 billion post-apocalypic FPSs, but that setting sees a satisfactory amount of innovation that keeps it fresh. You have games like Medal of Honor: European Assualt that has things like an adrenaline meter where if you get enough adrenaline, you get infinite ammo and you're invurnable. That shit is whack.

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Just to burst ur balloon Sensee, it was mostly the Russians which kicked hitlers ass. America lost like half a million troops, russians around 25million. But then again, Russian soldiers were almost just as bad for germans as the nazis were for jews, but i cant blame em=) I would like to play a game this brutal

Yes I knew that. But who cares about Stalingrad, D-Day rulzz!!!111 :roll:

Relic is a f%#king amazing company. Their personnel director promised me an interview and a flight ticket when I graduate. They are awesome. Can't say that enough!

Is Relic in the UK or US?

Since as far I know, its a really cool place to work.

And their games rock.

They are in... Canada! In Vancouver on the Western coast of Canada. Just a stone throw away from Whistler/Black Comb which is supposedly the best snowboarding terrain on the American continent. So perfect for a Norwegian such as yourself...

Been there, looks kinda like back home.

That's all there is to it then!

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If you get to work @ relic I will have sex with you

Uhmmmm. I might not take you up on that offer...

Actually, I got a buddy, he was also on the of 2003 GDCE scholarship recepients. He just left Relic for some tiny company. Why would you do that?