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[CS GO Wingman] Vaccine (WIP)

  • DutchCrazyGamer
  • June 9, 2020 at 9:22 AM
  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • June 9, 2020 at 9:22 AM
    • #1

    Welcome to my entry to the Source Engine Discord Wingman Contest. Below here you can find some of my references and pictures of the greybox. For now the map looks really dark but this will change over time. It is this dark because the light setting for the theme is around the fall of the night.

    Link to the map: (currently not the new version): https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…/?id=2099918669

    The map is situated in a secret laboratory where the Vaccine for the Corona Virus is being developed.

    Here are some of my references:


    Spoiler


    Some WIP pictures of the map and the radar:

    Spoiler

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • June 22, 2020 at 2:36 PM
    • #2

    Since the last post i did an extra playtest and added some more lighting. This is the result:

    Spoiler

  • Lizard
    • June 22, 2020 at 3:05 PM
    • #3

    Hi! Second version looks a lot better when it comes to lighting. What I'm seeing from the screenshots is that you have very wide corridors with little cover for the players. Normally I like to put some smaller objects for players to hide behind, retreat or just reload mid fight.

    I'm not a big fan of judging gameplay of the map from overview but it seem like you tried to avoid 90 deegree angles turns with angled walls. It only made the map looks "jagged" in some places. I would try to make the turns more fluid with smaller geometry.

    Keep it up!

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • June 22, 2020 at 3:20 PM
    • #4
    Quote from Lizard

    12 minutes ago, Lizard said: Hi! Second version looks a lot better when it comes to lighting. What I'm seeing from the screenshots is that you have very wide corridors with little cover for the players. Normally I like to put some smaller objects for players to hide behind, retreat or just reload mid fight.

    I'm not a big fan of judging gameplay of the map from overview but it seem like you tried to avoid 90 deegree angles turns with angled walls. It only made the map looks "jagged" in some places. I would try to make the turns more fluid with smaller geometry.

    Keep it up!

    Yeah i need to add some more cover in some of the wide corridors. The "jagged" turns will be fixed in the detailing stage. Currently first aiming to create a decent layout and then detailing + polishing it.

  • Lizard
    • June 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM
    • #5
    Quote from DutchCrazyGamer

    6 minutes ago, DutchCrazyGamer said: Yeah i need to add some more cover in some of the wide corridors. The "jagged" turns will be fixed in the detailing stage. Currently first aiming to create a decent layout and then detailing + polishing it.

    I think jagged turns are not visual issue but more of a gameplay so I would suggest to work on them now because even if visually they will be more 'open' so for example visually they will look like 90 degree turn but gameplay they will be cut to 45 degrees it will feel off and noisy to some extent. Let me know if thats clear enough to understand :D

  • FMPONE
    • June 22, 2020 at 8:59 PM
    • #6

    Cool theme idea!

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • July 19, 2020 at 2:41 PM
    • #7

    After a vacation of 2 weeks i finally had some time to make progress again. Today i made the first custom texture for the map in designer (it took a few hours so i will probably make the other textures in alchemist).

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • July 20, 2020 at 4:49 PM
    • #8

    Finally added some more shape to the outside of the facility. (It is not fully detailed yet because i want to prioritize the inside because most of the map plays there, expect more screenshots soon). I will update the workshop page as soon as i have some basic shaping inside the facility/laboratory which i am happy with.

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • July 22, 2020 at 4:29 PM
    • #9

    Yesterday i did some more shaping to the inside. I think i can start on the full detailing proces now, but that can only be proven by playtesting.

    Edit: Seems like there is an error for the radar. Will fix this ASAP. (will do this on the workshop as well)

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • August 6, 2020 at 9:34 AM
    • #10

    It has been a while since i last posted something. Had a playtest for it that concluded that the spawns had to be shifted a tiny bit to make it more fair and balanced. Also started with modeling the first model (the texturing is currently really bad because i have not been diving that deep into substance painter yet)

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • August 10, 2020 at 8:57 AM
    • #11

    Redid the texture and smoothed the model because the uv was messed up. That was why the texture looked so bad:


  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • August 20, 2020 at 4:13 PM
    • #12

    It has been a week since i posted anything about the progress of the map. In the end (with some feedback from @Peake) i decided to not use the model for now because it is to underdetailed for a hero prop. I also started with adding some basic textures to some area's of the map. In the pictures you can see some color coding for each area (currently only blue for ct spawn and green for the bombsite area). Here are some pics:

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • September 7, 2020 at 9:00 AM
    • #13

    School has started again and there will be a high chance of not finishing the project (map is heavily underdetailed but the layout is good enough) but here are some more screenshots:

    https://imgur.com/a/MMrhXD7 (can't seem to upload any image to the forums anymore)

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • September 28, 2020 at 9:30 AM
    • #14

    The wingman competion is comming to an end and i finally updated the map with something that i am happy with!!!

    https://imgur.com/a/SRACPZD Here you can find some of the images that are on the latest version.

  • blackdog
    • September 28, 2020 at 12:10 PM
    • #15

    Seems a bit big and bare for a Wingman map, but haven't run around it so can't confirm. I find those greenish trims quite weird, I can see you want them to get the theme of the map through but they don't blend with the rest, to pull off that kind of detailing you need also custom assets to go along.

    Good luck with the submission!

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • September 28, 2020 at 1:26 PM
    • #16
    Quote from blackdog

    1 hour ago, blackdog said: Seems a bit big and bare for a Wingman map, but haven't run around it so can't confirm. I find those greenish trims quite weird, I can see you want them to get the theme of the map through but they don't blend with the rest, to pull off that kind of detailing you need also custom assets to go along.

    Yeah the detailing is verry bare bone. I wasted a lot of time on a model that eventually did not use. Learning point for next time. I probably won't make any more edits for now until the contest is over due to new problems appearing of those edits and school.

    Quote from blackdog

    1 hour ago, blackdog said: Good luck with the submission!

    Ty

  • DutchCrazyGamer
    • October 13, 2020 at 6:59 AM
    • #17

    Alright the contest results are in and i reached 65th place. (I beat my other wingman map from last wingman contest ? ) Not bad considering i started detailing in the last month due to spending to much time on models. I learned a lot this contest (mostly about modeling, texturing and creating textures) and i am happy with what i achieved. Now with the feedback i will apply some changes to improve the map as a whole (new detailing overhaul + some layout changes). I congratulate the winners because this contest had so many good entries and some amazing people. Idk if i will be participating in the next contest because it took me a lot of time and i still have a study to finish. (Maybe with a collaboration with someone). My plans for now are finishing Vaccine and after that continue with the rework for Zansort (My Mapcore 2019-2020 contest entry). Also i will focus on improving my model skills and spend some time learning detailing so that Vaccine can become something i can be proud of.

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