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DE_CACHE (new version)

  • FMPONE
  • October 10, 2019 at 8:44 AM
  • FMPONE
    • October 10, 2019 at 8:44 AM
    • #1

    DE_CACHE by FMPONE and Volcano

    A bomb defusal map set around Chernobyl.

    Terrorists are bent on destroying the evidence of a massive weapons-cache in the shadows of Chernobyl.

    THANK YOU TO THE FOLLOWING (amazing) PEOPLE!: MAPCORE.ORG, Robert Yang, Lenz Monath (penE)

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    Comparison Sliders: FMPONE.com/cache

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  • Radu
    • October 10, 2019 at 12:27 PM
    • #2

    Really cool to have followed up with the evolution of this map over the years. Brings up that old question, when is a map really done?

    Btw, I like the new look. It does feel a bit too much visually in some areas, less consistent/subtle than the previous version, but it's alright. Kinda reminds me of the environments from The Last of Us with the overgrown vegetation.

  • RA7
    • October 10, 2019 at 2:55 PM
    • #3

    Great job, guys. Pimpage incomin'

  • H1PP0P0T4MU5
    • October 10, 2019 at 3:28 PM
    • #4

    Looks really good, cant wait to try it out.

  • manint71
    • October 10, 2019 at 3:47 PM
    • #5

    will the assets for this be included in the main game, or released publically? either way, awesome!!

  • morozov
    • October 10, 2019 at 4:03 PM
    • #6

    lets start 1. Open or closed? Mb you can open it in inside too?

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    2. Try to fix that, it is doesn't matter, but looks strange)

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    3. Vehicle, i think need to change to Soviet.

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    1. Izh 27151

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    2. Izh 2125 Combi

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    3. UAZ 452

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    4. MAZ 500

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    4. Foliage distance

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    5. Need fix this light props (remade props)

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    6. Miss roofs

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    7. Miss wall on build

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    hmm thats all. mb not)) not sure) I like some changes, i like Cache before, and i think i want to play again. For me, new visual like Erangel 2.0. Good job)

  • NikiOo
    • October 11, 2019 at 7:35 PM
    • #7

    Yep, those three vehicles need to be replaced with soviet asap. You can't just pull a fast one on the whole community like that. The solviets are gonna be insulted. That's practically butchering their cultural heritage. Imagine if everyone started making arbitrary changes to historically-themed maps, what will happen in 10 years, 50 years? We'll forget what soviet cars looked like.

    Remember when Coca Cola took santa claus and made him red? They didn't care about Jesus Christ and what colors he liked! And now no one remembers that Santa was actually black.

  • fewseb
    • October 11, 2019 at 10:04 PM
    • #8
    Quote from NikiOo

    22 hours ago, NikiOo said: Yep, those three vehicles need to be replaced with soviet asap. You can't just pull a fast one on the whole community like that. The solviets are gonna be insulted. That's practically butchering their cultural heritage. Imagine if everyone started making arbitrary changes to historically-themed maps, what will happen in 10 years, 50 years? We'll forget what soviet cars looked like.

    Remember when Coca Cola took santa claus and made him red? They didn't care about Jesus Christ and what colors he liked! And now no one remembers that Santa was actually black.

    ehh, I just think its a bit lame so many assets are just stock with a Hi rez retaxture and some wear thrown on. He made sure to individually model and texture those leaves but major piece of cover that you look at all the time are still the exact same. Even the bomb crates are pretty lame. Yeah the hi rez yellow strap is cool and all but did he really have to stick with the exact same over used missile crate props with a slight detail texture applied. My least favorite thing has to be that god awful source crate texture that should have been removed in the his original version. Ok cool its a remake of the original texture on a new hi rez prop, neat you couldn't have tried something new to show off your obvious modeling talent.

  • monolith
    • October 12, 2019 at 12:21 AM
    • #9

    I'm sorry, I understand you have years of mapping experience, but making the self-boost easier on CT side mid was not a good change at all. You have the movement community enraged by this right now.

    Your proposal to this change is strange. You still have to know how to properly air-strafe to it, but half of the challenge is now gone. It also doesn't make that much sense gameplay-wise as well. Why should T's have to expect that boost even more? CT's either had to sacrifice a teammate for a consistent counter-boost, or a solo CT had to use their movement to complete it. Make the self-boost the way it's always been. It was always so fun to do because of its challenge.

    I know Valve is trying to remove skill from maps, but please don't follow suit with them. Most movement players have been quitting CS:GO because of all these changes that spite them.

  • Le1T
    • October 12, 2019 at 1:55 PM
    • #10

    Good day. Nice looking map. Good job!

    First of all - English isnt my home language. Sry. But i have to say a few words. Im a mechanic of the HVAC and Refrigeration systems. And i found rude mistakes.

    1. In the USSR there were only monoblock window air conditioners. On your map are using modern SPLIT system.

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    2. Is the condenser of conditioner fixed to the window? Not realistic. It's 40-50kg weight.

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    3. It is well fixed, but the condenser should be located 50 cm from the wall.

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    BUT WHAT DOES IT COOLING? STREET?

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    No air conditioner evaporator

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    If the evaporator is located somewhere in the building, then where are the copper pipes in isolation?

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    4. The same low montage to the window.

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    5. Heating radiator.

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    Сast-iron radiators were used In the USSR.

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    In 1986 a modern water flow regulator with a bimetallic plate? Not real.

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    6. The same number plates.

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  • Le1T
    • October 12, 2019 at 2:18 PM
    • #11

    7. Tubes.

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    And the tubes laid through a load-bearing wall?

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    8. Cant use a ventilation grill like in old version.

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    9. Hmm.

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    10. Decals on box.

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  • Radu
    • October 12, 2019 at 3:06 PM
    • #12

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  • leplubodeslapin
    • October 12, 2019 at 5:17 PM
    • #13

    what

    Guys ok it's nice that you can be so accurate with your feedbacks and I'm pretty sure that they're welcome to improve the visuals of the map and make it more "realistic".

    But please, understand that not everybody is an expert in AC, plumbing and in the history of USSR vehicles from decades ago. It's something that the map creators can take into account and change but it's their map, they don't have to change these things to please a community of people.

    Appreciate the work applied here and do your feedbacks as suggestions of stuff that could be improved, kindly.

    Just my 2 cents :x

  • fewseb
    • October 12, 2019 at 5:50 PM
    • #14
    Quote from leplubodeslapin

    26 minutes ago, leplubodeslapin said: what

    Guys ok it's nice that you can be so accurate with your feedbacks and I'm pretty sure that they're welcome to improve the visuals of the map and make it more "realistic".

    But please, understand that not everybody is an expert in AC, plumbing and in the history of USSR vehicles from decades ago. It's something that the map creators can take into account and change but it's their map, they don't have to change these things to please a community of people.

    Appreciate the work applied here and do your feedbacks as suggestions of stuff that could be improved, kindly.

    Just my 2 cents :x

    I mean some stuff he said is kind of unreasonable, yeah none of us are going to go that in depth to how are pipe systems work in a map and I dont think most people will notice that a space heater is not era-accurate. At the same time though it should be pretty obvious to most people that AC units dont mount onto the window pane itself and if you are going to go out of your way to put a fan or ac unit in an area where you can see the receiving side you need to detail appropriately, no doubt that AC unit by boost was only put there to justify the original boost, but at this point since you can just jump over to the ledge he might as well remove it instead of trying to detail the front end of the system on the other side.

    The 2 trucks having the same license plate is reasonable since they are the same model, but why reuse it for the van prop? Id assume they dont share a texture.

  • PogoP
    • October 12, 2019 at 8:28 PM
    • #15

    Congrats on the release guys. Looks cool and different to the 20,000 Italy based maps everyone seems to make for this game. Ignore these miserable, pedantic fuckers. This is why I don't check Mapcore very often any more lol

  • Minos
    • October 12, 2019 at 9:09 PM
    • #16

    Gosh, sometimes I really feel like quitting the internet :D People are "enraged" because something changed in a virtual map? Feedback is always welcome, but please keep it nice. Thank you!

    And the map looks awesome man!

  • fewseb
    • October 13, 2019 at 12:58 AM
    • #17
    Quote from PogoP

    4 hours ago, PogoP said: Congrats on the release guys. Looks cool and different to the 20,000 Italy based maps everyone seems to make for this game. Ignore these miserable, pedantic fuckers. This is why I don't check Mapcore very often any more lol

    Dont post something to a public forum and get mad when people *gasp* have a reaction to it. I dont understand why you would join an online forum based on giving feedback and reactions, then get mad when people do just that.

  • FMPONE
    • October 13, 2019 at 1:05 AM
    • #18
    Quote from PogoP

    9 hours ago, PogoP said: Congrats on the release guys. Looks cool and different to the 20,000 Italy based maps everyone seems to make for this game. Ignore these miserable, pedantic fuckers. This is why I don't check Mapcore very often any more lol

    Lol ?

    Thank you Liam!


    Quote from Le1T

    15 hours ago, Le1T said: Good day. Nice looking map. Good job!

    First of all - English isnt my home language. Sry. But i have to say a few words. Im a mechanic of the HVAC and Refrigeration systems. And i found rude mistakes.

    1. In the USSR there were only monoblock window air conditioners. On your map are using modern SPLIT system.

    http://# Reveal hidden contents

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/DcWLa1c.jpg]

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/63GJYhf.jpg]


    2. Is the condenser of conditioner fixed to the window? Not realistic. It's 40-50kg weight.

    http://# Reveal hidden contents [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/eH2cucJ.png]

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/KC5jPhb.png]

    3. It is well fixed, but the condenser should be located 50 cm from the wall.

    http://# Reveal hidden contents [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/NmWiQUJ.png]

    BUT WHAT DOES IT COOLING? STREET?

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/Yod5f13.png]

    No air conditioner evaporator

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/a8dl3kR.png]

    If the evaporator is located somewhere in the building, then where are the copper pipes in isolation?

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/hMeFlHM.jpg]

    4. The same low montage to the window.

    http://# Reveal hidden contents [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/0gJMEvZ.png]

    5. Heating radiator.

    http://# Reveal hidden contents [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/YGLSXxa.png]

    Сast-iron radiators were used In the USSR.

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/tU3SYAJ.png]

    In 1986 a modern water flow regulator with a bimetallic plate? Not real.

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/xQUhHpi.png]

    6. The same number plates.

    http://# Reveal hidden contents [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/1YYCUVU.png]

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/VnVwEyQ.png]

    [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/3xaVV7l.jpg]

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    I solemnly swear to you to make my radiators period-accurate when the opportunity arises :P

  • Le1T
    • October 13, 2019 at 8:16 AM
    • #19
    Quote from leplubodeslapin

    15 hours ago, leplubodeslapin said: what

    Guys ok it's nice that you can be so accurate with your feedbacks and I'm pretty sure that they're welcome to improve the visuals of the map and make it more "realistic".

    But please, understand that not everybody is an expert in AC, plumbing and in the history of USSR vehicles from decades ago. It's something that the map creators can take into account and change but it's their map, they don't have to change these things to please a community of people.

    Appreciate the work applied here and do your feedbacks as suggestions of stuff that could be improved, kindly.

    Just my 2 cents :x

    I do agree with you that this is their map and they do what they want. But the theme of Pripyat and Chernobyl is not just a thread, but a whole cult. A lot of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games and books on this game have been released. Filmed TV-series. Organized trips to Pripyat and other.

    You even dont know that does that mean "USSR". Because you did not live there. And you do not live now here, after the USSR. 60% of people (russians, belarusians, ukranians) still use these radiators in LIFE.

    And yes - replacing an American truck with a Soviet one is a must for this map to recreate that era and cult. If the map was called "FRANCE" for example, then you would like to see a Renault or CITROEN car, would you?

    Just my 5 coins (;

    Spoiler maybe I was not so convincing, but its just because of the language barrier: P

  • Le1T
    • October 13, 2019 at 9:45 AM
    • #20

    lets continue :D

    11. No CCTV in the USSR. Please, remove a warning sign.

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    12. How does this work ? :) There were no automatic boom barriers. Just a wooden or metallic white-red stick.

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    13. Its a modern Forklift Truck.

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    AP-4045 was using.

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    14.

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    15. English inscriptions

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    16.

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    17. same numbers

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    18. just need to turn to face the wall to hide english inscriptions

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    19.

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