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de_orbit

  • Byron
  • June 10, 2019 at 2:14 AM
  • Byron
    • June 10, 2019 at 2:14 AM
    • #1

    De_Orbit


    Main Theme

    Takes place on a futuristic/alien space station

    Halo styled

    [/list] Goals

    Make a completely different map than we’re used to seeing

    [/list] Experiment with rarely used gameplay features

    Focus more on enjoyability rather than competitiveness (to an extent)

    Not let the wacky stuff get in the way of core counter strike gameplay, but rather add to it

    [/list] Area Themes

    T spawn is on a smaller space ship which has boarded the space station

    CTs spawn close to the center of the space station

    The area in front of T spawn is a large ring which circles all the way around the space station, but most is blocked off, which will have an orange colour scheme

    [/list] Bombsite A will take place outside the space station

    Bombsite B will probably be some sort of engine room and blue colour scheme

    The connection from T spawn to A long will be an outside walkway

    Rest undecided

    [/list] Layout

    The layout is quite complex and large

    Borrows its core layout from overpass, with instead of one middle area, there are two, one heading to A and the other to B, and an outer route for each site

    Most of the fights will happen off site, apart from the B main chokepoint, to allow for a battle for map control before a bombsite take

    Main choke points include A long, Mid, connector and B main, although many battles will happen between them

    [/list] Features

    Low gravity in outside areas (A site and surroundings, as well as on the route from T spawn to A long)

    Gravity lift from CT to window room

    Jump boosters from CT to A

    A speedway that shortens timings to outside B from T spawn and vice versa

    Teleporters from window room to connector (2 way)

    [/list] A big roller door onto A site from mid that can only be opened from the mid side

    Small door from outside B to connector

    Vents from top mid to A long (requires boost when going from mid)

    Electricity that causes damage from A site to mid (can be turned off from A)

    Skybox including outer space stuff like planets and stars moving to have the illusion of orbit, as well as small space ships and satellites

    [/list] Skybox also includes the unplayable area of the space station

    Custom models, aliens for T and space suit dudes for CT

    Most of the map takes place indoors, but a lot of the roof and floor will be made of glass to allow for natural lighting, and the rooves will be about as high as a skybox in most areas

    Colour coding of areas

    Escape pods ejected once bomb is planted

    Gravity lowered globally when bomb explodes

    [/list] Progress

    Version one of graybox complete

    Skybox concepts started

    [/list] Workshop

    Radar

    Spoiler


    Comments

    This is my final year of school, so I won’t have a ton of time to make this map, but school does finish in November so I will have a lot of time after that. This is my first serious map, so I’m not 100% sure what I’m doing most of the time and might have to ask for some help at some point, but I’ll see how I go. Not necessarily going for the top prizes, but hoping to at least finish the project and get a lot of experience

  • Byron
    • June 18, 2019 at 8:08 AM
    • #2

    Radar Update


    *Edited main post to be up to date, look at the main post to see annotations (e.g. where anti gravity is, etc)

  • Radu
    • June 18, 2019 at 11:27 AM
    • #3

    Is it gonna be different? Yep.

    Will it fit with CS:GO? Well...

  • Interfearance
    • June 18, 2019 at 1:30 PM
    • #4

    My first ever map idea was to have a small scale space station that had T's boarding in a dropship as well. It would be sick if you went with a darker theme instead of sterile light because it would layer on the "exotic" feel. [Blocked Image: https://d2skuhm0vrry40.cloudfront.net/2018/articles/2018-04-06-23-47/a1caa94528de7843378e182485295725_original.png/EG11/resize/639x-1/quality/75/format/jpg]

    The system shock remake, while having some overly dark areas, might be a good lighting reference.

  • TECHNICKER
    • June 18, 2019 at 2:54 PM
    • #5
    Quote from OPzy

    6 hours ago, OPzy said: Radar Update


    *Edited main post to be up to date, look at the main post to see annotations (e.g. where anti gravity is, etc)

    Awesome, thats gonna be the toughest opponent IMHO! (and Ive got very simillar idea back then :D)

    BUT...

    You cant make different gravity inside and out. Gravity is same all over the map. And a lot of those very cool features are gonna be competitively unsitable, but I suggest you to create two versions of this map. 1st JFF and 2nd Competitively viable version.

    But very cool idea TBH! Cant wait to where this project will go!

  • Karthoum
    • June 18, 2019 at 4:16 PM
    • #6

    I think he could do a mild push trigger upwards to make "artificial" zero G environment where you sorta float in a direction?

  • mr.jogurt
    • June 18, 2019 at 10:14 PM
    • #7

    im looking forward to playing this map.. this could be a hellalalot (hey philip) of fun

  • Byron
    • June 19, 2019 at 1:34 AM
    • #8
    Quote from Radu

    14 hours ago, Radu said: Is it gonna be different? Yep.

    Will it fit with CS:GO? Well...

    Yeah, that's a fair point, but I will try to not let things get too out of hand, if something distracts players from the core gameplay I'll remove it.


    Quote from Interfearance

    12 hours ago, Interfearance said: My first ever map idea was to have a small scale space station that had T's boarding in a dropship as well. It would be sick if you went with a darker theme instead of sterile light because it would layer on the "exotic" feel. [Blocked Image: https://d2skuhm0vrry40.cloudfront.net/2018/articles/2018-04-06-23-47/a1caa94528de7843378e182485295725_original.png/EG11/resize/639x-1/quality/75/format/jpg]

    The system shock remake, while having some overly dark areas, might be a good lighting reference.

    That's sick, thanks for the image! I might make some areas similar to this style and others more vibrant, just to give some variety in the map.

    Quote from TECHNICKER

    10 hours ago, TECHNICKER said: Awesome, thats gonna be the toughest opponent IMHO! (and Ive got very simillar idea back then :D)

    BUT...

    You cant make different gravity inside and out. Gravity is same all over the map. And a lot of those very cool features are gonna be competitively unsitable, but I suggest you to create two versions of this map. 1st JFF and 2nd Competitively viable version.

    But very cool idea TBH! Cant wait to where this project will go!

    trigger_gravity babyyyy. Thanks for the feedback tho, I probably won't make two versions right now, but maybe along the line at some point. As I said, I'll try not to let the wacky stuff get too in the way, but more add to the gameplay experience.

  • Freaky_Banana
    • June 19, 2019 at 12:47 PM
    • #9
    Quote from OPzy

    11 hours ago, OPzy said: Thanks for the feedback tho, I probably won't make two versions right now, but maybe along the line at some point. As I said, I'll try not to let the wacky stuff get too in the way, but more add to the gameplay experience.

    I really like the idea of different gravities (although to be fair my favorite shooter is one with walljumps, ledgegrabs and powerslides ) . What I am not sold on is the button sort of stuff. I think that is a bit too outlandish for CSGO players to have to interact with their environment. But then again, I would love to see a playable version to further comment on this!

  • TECHNICKER
    • June 20, 2019 at 2:36 PM
    • #10
    Quote from OPzy

    On 6/19/2019 at 2:34 AM, OPzy said: trigger_gravity babyyyy. Thanks for the feedback tho, I probably won't make two versions right now, but maybe along the line at some point. As I said, I'll try not to let the wacky stuff get too in the way, but more add to the gameplay experience.

    It changes overall gravity when triggerd, or am I wrong?

  • mr.jogurt
    • June 20, 2019 at 3:22 PM
    • #11
    Quote from Karthoum

    On 6/18/2019 at 5:16 PM, Karthoum said: I think he could do a mild push trigger upwards to make "artificial" zero G environment where you sorta float in a direction?

    then he should just do that @TECHNICKER

  • Byron
    • June 20, 2019 at 3:50 PM
    • #12
    Quote from TECHNICKER

    1 hour ago, TECHNICKER said: It changes overall gravity when triggerd, or am I wrong?

    Fuck I hope not, but I don’t think so. From what I’ve played with bots so far and according to valve developer community it’s just people inside it.

  • TECHNICKER
    • June 21, 2019 at 5:37 AM
    • #13
    Quote from OPzy

    13 hours ago, OPzy said: Fuck I hope not, but I don’t think so. From what I’ve played with bots so far and according to valve developer community it’s just people inside it.

    OK, cool! Good Luck then!

  • Byron
    • June 23, 2019 at 2:44 PM
    • #14

    Finished the first version of the layout and uploaded to workshop! Link in main post! Changes: - Built A site, it now features a main structure in the middle, which you can either plant on top of or underneath. - Changed mid, it now includes a boost spot and the connection to B is now lower than the rest of mid, with a one way drop to get to it. - Changes to CT's main route to mid/b and the portal room - Some other layout changes Also ignore the shit lighting, I just kinda spammed lights around to be able to play the layout be also have a roof. The actual version will have a glass roof / floor in most areas, or good lighting

  • NikiOo
    • June 23, 2019 at 3:29 PM
    • #15

    I like wacky gimmicky stuff, it's exotic contest after all. It does seem very big and complicated though.

  • Byron
    • June 25, 2019 at 4:07 AM
    • #16

    Concept of the space station skybox. Rotation is a bit experimental and might not work well, but oh well.


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  • El_Exodus
    • June 27, 2019 at 12:11 PM
    • #17

    I'm aware it's not easy to pull off and I might be nitpicky here, but artificial gravity won't work like that. The rotational force should push you in radial direction instead of axial direction as seen in your map.

    So if you'd rotate the rotation axis of the station 90° and put the playable area of the map in an area where the centrifugal force would actually push the players against the floor, the whole concept could at least be plausible. Additionally, a rotating skybox (planet/moon/stars) could fake the impression that the playable area would rotate around the central station axis.

    Might be worth experimenting with that stuff while it's still a greybox.

  • text_fish
    • June 27, 2019 at 1:03 PM
    • #18

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  • Byron
    • June 28, 2019 at 7:16 AM
    • #19

    Thanks for last nights playtest guys! I couldn't be there due to the fact that not only was it 4am in the morning for me, but my internet decided to go down for that whole night. Anyway, I watched you guys play it and here are the big things I noticed: - Defending A site isn't very intuitive due to the number of buttons and stuff, so I'll cut down on that

    - This whole area (in spoiler) is way too complicated and also not very intuitive, so I'll completely rework that.

    Spoiler

    - The map is too big, although I had a sneaking suspicion that was the case already. I'll do what I can to reduce this issue by cutting out the unused areas, but it'll be the hardest to fix.

    A few smaller ones: - Y'all suicided at least once per round, so I'll prevent that from happening so frequently

    - The A long entrance is way to easy to camp

    - Many areas remained unused for most rounds, so I'll either cut them out or make better use of them.


    Anyway, thanks for playtesting guys! It helped out a lot!


    @El_Exodus I know it doesn't make sense the way I'm describing it ;( I actually started this after doing circular motion and all that in physics, so I know it's all wrong haha. I'll make sure it works scientifically by the end of the graybox stage, and if not I'll just say that it's futuristic technology that we don't understand ;)

  • Vaya
    • June 28, 2019 at 12:04 PM
    • #20

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