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    Thanks T-Rexer.

    For those who had the first same question as me: 20608 x 20608

    It appears optimisation mostly comes down to a shit load of horizontal hint brushes?

    Unsurprisingly, in game the environment is a lot less detailed (at least on the small scale) than other recent maps such as Dust2 and Nuke. A lot of the interiors are CS:S quality.

    Quote from text_fish

    5 hours ago, text_fish said: Thanks T-Rexer.

    For those who had the first same question as me: 20608 x 20608

    It appears optimisation mostly comes down to a shit load of horizontal hint brushes?

    Unsurprisingly, in game the environment is a lot less detailed (at least on the small scale) than other recent maps such as Dust2 and Nuke. A lot of the interiors are CS:S quality.

    battleroyale quality

    Quote from CoconutDawg

    2 hours ago, CoconutDawg said: In relation to this map's textures (under the 'hr_massive' category in Hammer SDK) how does the four way blend or any blend work? I try to blend but it just adds more or takes away grass (the tall grass that looks like a sprite) and I try using the sculpt tool's 'Blend' option under the displacement settings but that does nothing as well. What's Valve's secret?

    I think Valve used not anounced tools. Or Valve used Sprinkle tools, for .vbsp grass, but i don't know how it work. This tools EZ for prop_static and other entities.

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    Quote from I ♡ The 1950

    On 12/7/2018 at 1:49 AM, I ♡ The 1950's said: I'm very interested to see how they made the detail sprites work in the map. I've been trying to get them to work for so long now. Thank you for this!

    the grass in blacksite just seem like normal old-fashioned detailsprites ..i guess

    it definitely works but a lot of commands cause errors and my grass doesnt look as good but it could be the quality of the texture im using

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    my vmt:

    Grass { "$basetexture" "sawmill/detailsprites/detailsprites_sawmill" $alphatest 1 $vertexcolor 1 }

    "$alphatest" and "$vertexcolor" are the only needed and working commands as i know of(everything else makes it glitch out)

    1. Decrease Tools - Options - 3D views - Detail render distance value to make Hammer happy. 2. How it's done? Again I'm tried to discover without help from Valve - with success.

    I created a simple material using one of %detailtype made by Valve for a new map, "survival_grass_2" and I covered one big (~20k) displaced plane by this material.

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    {

    "$basetexture" "mamorex/dev64_orange" "$basetexture2" "mamorex/dev64_grey" "%detailtype" "survival_grass_2"

    }

    Here's the effect:

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    detail.vbsp is in csgo folder, the other files not, so I used GCFScapes.

    survival_grass_2 using a "detail\detailsprites_survival" for detail sprites.

    Spoiler grass { "$basetexture" "detail/detailsprites_survival" "$masks" "detail/detailsprites_survival_masks" "$alphatest" "1" "$vertexcolor" "1" "$worldspacetype" "detail/test_massive9_grass_type" "$worldspacetint" "detail/test_massive9_grass_tint" "$worldspaceburn" "_rt_grassburn" "$worldspacezone" "_rt_zoneprojection" %notooltexture "1" // "$worldspacescale" ".75" "$minimumspritesize" "22" }

    So, Valve created three masks:

    "$worldspacetint" "detail/test_massive9_grass_tint"

    It looks like the darker = cover by grass, lighter = no grass.

    "$worldspacetype" "detail/test_massive9_grass_type"

    A few colors to decide, what type of grass will be placed.

    "$masks" "detail/detailsprites_survival_masks"

    I don't know, how it works, but colors are the same as in the previous one.

    So, if you want to use a detail sprites in your map like Valve, you must create a .vbsp file with a new detail sprites type and detail sprites material with a new masks, specially designed to your map.

    If you delete masks entries from your custom detail sprites material, sprites are placed or not by blend alpha value and parameters from .vbsp file.

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    Alright, I did some testing with the new detail sprites and found out how more specifically how they work. @Mamorex was on the right track but there's a few key things you left out.

    Removing $alphatest from the material or adding $translucent

    First, the detail sprites material - it's 2 detail sprite sheets side by side, so version A and version B. The different versions have to have same sprite positions and sizes. You only specify version A coordinates in the .vbsp.

    Next up, the detail sprites masks. Red and blue are for wind offset -- so you can have different parts of the sprites sway in the wind differently, you can see Valve isolated some blades of grass for this effect. The green channel is a tint mask and controls how much the sprites are affected by the $worldspacetint.

    That brings us to the world space textures. They seem to automatically get resized to fit the whole map area, so it you resize the map you'd have to resize the textures too.

    The world space tint texture is pretty self explanatory, controls what color to tint the grass, 127 grey means no tint.

    The world space masks texture uses the red channel to select which version of the sprites to use -- 0 is version A and anything more is version B.

    The green channel of the texture controls the sprite size -- 127 is default, with darker making the sprites smaller and brighter making the sprites larger. The vmt command $minimumspritesize controls the cutoff point for the sprites, so the sprites smaller than the specified value don't get rendered which can act as a placement mask.

    I don't know what the blue channel of this texture does, changing it had no effect on the sprites for me.


    All this means sprites still get placed by vbsp on map compile, so they still use displacement alpha for the placement, but the new masks can manipulate sprites size and color after map compile.

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    Quote from text_fish

    On ‎12‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 6:32 AM, text_fish said: Would it be possible to use this new detail sprite system on a vertical plane to make ivy on a wall, or will the masks only allow for horizontal(ish) detail?

    I've played the HL2 Cinematic Mod, and some of the caves in that game have detail sprite grass on the walls and even the ceiling. So I'm certain it could be possible.

    Quote from untor

    On 12/10/2018 at 1:59 PM, untor said: I think Valve used not anounced tools. Or Valve used Sprinkle tools, for .vbsp grass, but i don't know how it work. This tools EZ for prop_static and other entities.

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    Ohhh...wow, this tool looks very useful! mass placing props has always been time sink in hammer (even with 'expert'-mode), had no idea this existed until I read your post! :D

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