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  • Steppenwolf
  • April 7, 2005 at 4:00 AM
  • Steppenwolf
    • April 7, 2005 at 4:00 AM
    • #1

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  • OL
    • April 7, 2005 at 5:09 AM
    • #2

    youre a ruskie?

  • Minos
    • April 7, 2005 at 6:44 AM
    • #3

    stepp must be a gothic

    cool pics anyway

  • DaanO
    • April 7, 2005 at 12:57 PM
    • #4

    Pictures are pretty. But i think the graves get something glorious in your pictures (because they're pretty and are in nice colors and all), so they don't portrait the graves well, which they should do.

  • FrieChamp
    • April 7, 2005 at 1:10 PM
    • #5
    Quote from DaanO

    Pictures are pretty. But i think the graves get something glorious in your pictures (because they're pretty and are in nice colors and all), so they don't portrait the graves well, which they should do.

    Well, they are war heroes in their country after all, so maybe it isn't that bad.

  • st0lve
    • April 7, 2005 at 2:51 PM
    • #6

    commies in Germany?

    I love the last shot.

  • DaanO
    • April 7, 2005 at 3:08 PM
    • #7
    Quote from FrieChamp

    Well, they are war heroes in their country after all, so maybe it isn't that bad.

    I think it is. A really good photo is more than just a pretty picture. For graves, i'd go for some more humble photos really. Even for war heroes. Death is never something glorious, not even for war heroes. Cemetaries are there for grief, to remember those people.

  • Steppenwolf
    • April 7, 2005 at 3:18 PM
    • #8

    Im not ruskie. The graveyard is in germany behind the house of my parents. Its a very interesting place cause it shows all the history of my hometown. There are graves of every wars from napoleon to ww2.

    Theres nothing glorious in the pics cause they show graves of too different people.

  • mikezilla
    • April 7, 2005 at 4:56 PM
    • #9
    Quote from DaanO

    Well, they are war heroes in their country after all, so maybe it isn't that bad.

    I think it is. A really good photo is more than just a pretty picture. For graves, i'd go for some more humble photos really. Even for war heroes. Death is never something glorious, not even for war heroes. Cemetaries are there for grief, to remember those people.

    That's like partially true. Are we to feel grief for the thousands we don't even know who they are? Visiting a random grave site carries with it a different emotion, it's like a odd sense of discovery.

    I like this photos.

  • DaanO
    • April 7, 2005 at 5:25 PM
    • #10

    Oh i don't say that i am sorry for those people as individuals, but graveyards are not happy places to me, at least. And Steppenwolf, i think that because of some bright colors and because you tried to make pretty pictures, they get something glorious almost. As if those graves only matter because of what they look like, you know?

  • von*ferret
    • April 7, 2005 at 5:52 PM
    • #11

    I should take pics of the graveyards in savannah, They are huge and filled with people from both the civil and revolutionary war.

  • ginsengavenger
    • April 7, 2005 at 6:12 PM
    • #12

    i like these, they're pretty well composed. did you try them in grayscale?

  • Taylor Swift
    • April 7, 2005 at 8:42 PM
    • #13

    Well the last pic is the best.

    btw many Ivan names on the gravestone

  • Steppenwolf
    • April 7, 2005 at 10:55 PM
    • #14
    Quote from DaanO

    Oh i don't say that i am sorry for those people as individuals, but graveyards are not happy places to me, at least. And Steppenwolf, i think that because of some bright colors and because you tried to make pretty pictures, they get something glorious almost. As if those graves only matter because of what they look like, you know?

    I understand your point but for me personaly the graveyard is a beautiful and peaceful place. I like it to be there watching the old stones, the animals and the trees. Its a good place to think about things and to learn schoolstuff (when i was a younger).

    You are right that i tried to make beautiful pics. I dont know the reason. Maybe because i like the place and want to show how it is there in reality.

  • DaanO
    • April 8, 2005 at 12:45 AM
    • #15

    Good point, hereby accepted.

  • RD
    • April 8, 2005 at 12:33 PM
    • #16

    In every american movie the american graves are portrayed as grand monuments filled with heroes. These pictures opened my beautiful eyes and made me realise the russians have heroes too, much more then any other people which has fought wars.

    And Daano, these are wargraves. Im sure when u die fighting against the mocro Jihadists in Holland, u would like ur depressing torn down grave to be visited by the grandchildren u werent able to make and have them take home ominous pictures to show their friends and say: Hey, this is the rubble of my grandfathers grave, i added extra filters over it to make it more forsaken, out of respect for his sacrifice to my freedom.

    But me, and probably the rest of the free world, would like my grave to be a grand monument of courage visited by millions of pilgrims in joy.

  • DaanO
    • April 8, 2005 at 12:54 PM
    • #17

    Yep just ridicule my point, you're doing a great job. Either you just do not understand what i'm saying or you're not willing to try.

  • RD
    • April 8, 2005 at 1:23 PM
    • #18

    Why should these russian warmonuments be humble?

  • Steppenwolf
    • April 8, 2005 at 2:08 PM
    • #19

    Just to make it clear if someone thinks so: there are no photoshop filters over the pics. They are like they came from the camera.

    On the pics are graves from soviet soldiers (im not sure why their graves are here because Altenburg was captured by american troops), jews who lived in Altenburg and maybe were murdered (dont know their exact history), soviet prisoners who worked in the weaponsfactory and died there (we had a factory that produced munition for the 8,8cm Flak) and the last two pics are german soldiergraves from the first world war.

  • DaanO
    • April 8, 2005 at 2:33 PM
    • #20
    Quote from RD

    Why should these russian warmonuments be humble?

    In didn't say those should be, i said the photos should. The fact that Steppenwolf saw these graves as an opportunity to get pretty photos (he succeeded well) is what i mean. I think good photos should be more than just a pretty picture, they should tell a story, be, well, interesting. I don't consider dying for your country to be something glorious, never. Photos should tell that.

    Steppenwolf: I know, shots are well taken and all

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