de_dawn [WIP] and lots of newbie questions

Quote from lynx

I also find it easier to do it with dev textures and then nodraw the non visible areas afterwards. Any tips about size, timings etc? my maps always end up too big or too small/ too open or too wide.

I guess that's something you have to feel, or playtest your map and normally people will complain about these things so you can change it in the next iteration.

If i'm not sure about a width or size of a corridor, I have a look at the official maps and the corridor size they use. Next to that I think about what purpose this corridor has.
Is it a chokepoint? Or a path to rotate? Do I need many people passing by at the same time? (like the spawn area on inferno , I hate the blockfest) and so on.
I think it's just a lot of common sense and feel. Then the "visuals" of the map have to follow these constraints, not the way around.

I typically keep paths 128-192 units wide. Of course there are times when there's a much tighter choke point like double doors, or a much wider area. I don't think there's any set rule on how wide to make something, just make sure it's wide enough for purpose and doesn't have too much dead space.

Look at Dust2 T spawn > B tunnels, that whole outside area could just be a path, but instead it's multi-levelled and is nice and open.

Good to see some of these changes, but please make my suggested lighting change. Current lighting is too dark to playtest. You can't even see your weapon skins!

use light_environment!

Quote from Vaya

use light_environment!

@lynx has, but the pitch is very bad. You can see in the 3rd screenshot that the sun is basically shining directly sideways.

Try this: sky_cs15_daylight02_hdr

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And this:

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That looks extremely small

that normally means you fucked up the buyzones so they are solid.

This is normally caused when there is no valid spawn. Try to add some more spawns and make sure to move them up a bit (16 units or so).

Also seems a little early days to drop this map? I'm sure there's a lot more you can learn from this before moving on to a new project.

Quote from lynx

yeah, but i figured out that it had lots of fundamental mistakes, i ran into a lot of problems. But i definitely learned a lot.

If you don't learn to fix those fundamental problems, what's stopping you from making them again?

Right now you think you won't make the same mistake, but if you fix it we will know you have learnt from it.

Quote from jackophant

If you don't learn to fix those fundamental problems, what's stopping you from making them again?

Right now you think you won't make the same mistake, but if you fix it we will know you have learnt from it.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ x 100!

Quote from lynx

Well, i didnt even add buyzones yet. Only One spawn and you dont spawn in the floor.

Quote from lynx

thanks, i tried that already but i didnt work

If you haven't solved the spawning issues then you're going to run into a lot more and a lot harder problems down the line.

Quote from lynx

thanks, i tried that already but i didnt work

Does the console give you any messages about invalid spawnpoints?