de_aqueduct new level in need of feedback BAD!

Quote from Vaya

have you thought a mapcore playtest? Good way to get a rush of feedback

the detailing looks super busy...in your last post the first/second compared to third screenshot- it doesn't look like the same area/theme? Modern bins mixed with dust2 textures and signage?

Quote from jackophant

you seem to have mashed a lot of different themes together into something I don't quite believe (also personal gripe, you've mixed the use of the fine orange and broad red bomb site signage).

IMO it kind of looks like you've mashed Assassin's creed, Witcher and FEAR together.

Regarding how busy the detailing looks, it's advisable to leave finer detail above the playable area to reduce visibility issues, but you've not left a single face without a prop or graffiti on it. It just feels very cluttered everywhere.

Following on from the detailing, your architecture: it's important for it to be believable and right now you have a lot of strangely angled buildings and unrealistic overhangs. Supports can make things feel more grounded, but the overhang still has to feel realistic. Do you have any reference photos?

Thanks for the feedback : -)! I have not conducted a playtest session yet and I have references it is a personal issue I have when I work I tend to work without references in mind sadly however I am trying to improve and it is good to be reminded! : -)

I am fixing the detailing issues and trying to fix the consistent theme throughout the level more and more : -)!

Patchy patch!

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…s/?id=600728667

Quote from Vaya

had a run about (just initial thoughts):

- reduce the amount of props massively. you have way too many things going on that don't add to the map. Cars going through walls(?), random pallet trucks/doors etc spammed every where. Texture set should be more refined too. I think this map is using a little of everything just now. too much prop repetition and too many different texture sets used. Interesting combo..

- I don't think you need the squeeky onto B. The other one seems pretty redundant too.

- Bombsites are on the small side.

- seems like a lot of unnecessary areas.

Mapcore playtest would help a lot imo.

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Thanks for the feedback and your time : -)! I will get on that playtest session ; ) Will fix the repetitive nature of my level as soon as possible : -)!

Quote from major.quin_n

I made an album of some little picky things, you could change them if you'd like: http://imgur.com/a/JISwB

Also, as others have mentioned, simplicity is key. I feel like you need to have more fluid structures, there are a bunch of random mismatched houses and apartments.

Thanks man I will fix em : -) Great to have pictures I appreciate it!

Quote from Vaya

I would look at the agency article on here too. Talks about keeping props unique to areas.

I think the detailing looks pretty good now overall but you should focus more on one style to make it feel more coherent.

Where do I find this agency article?

Quote from Vaya

well worth the read.

I would also look at how the 'aqueduct' could be more visible around the map and how it ties to the overall theming.

I personally would move it so it's over both bombsites and make the support columns the bombtargets. Obviously this would take a lot of rejigging to work but it would give the map more of a unique edge imo.

I like the way you think : -)! I will look into what I can do to make this happen Could be cool to make the support beam collapse as well on bombdetonation!

Quote from ElectroStatic

Nice map! Looks real good!

Thanks man : -)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…s/?id=569110763

And the patches don´t stop!

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Re-release day! New workshop post!

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…s/?id=600728667

The map turned out to be a bit more call of duty paced then I expected however this just means deathmatch is way more hectic than ever!! I wish to thank all of you that have contributed with your time and feedback!

Defusal and Deathmatch : -)!

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Quote from Logic

I'd prefer it if you wrote down the changes. It's hard for us to spot individual changes on your map by looking at screenshots alone

Next patch will have a changelog : -)! I have sadly neglected changelogs on mapcore, I have put every sinlge day for a month and a half into fixing stuff in the level and the scope for changes is so very wide!

Quote from Bodd Jonar

This is a real improvement! But on the bombsite, does the yellow line go over the crack in the ground?

Haha will fix ; )

Quote from blackdog

Really beautiful map, congrats!

No idea how it plays, but is interesting.

my comments are about art, think you can work and smooth the edges and make it looking really really great (Operation material if you will – the aqueduct gives the map grandiosity). The problem right now, I think, is that there's a clash of styles, is a bit cluttered… doesn't really transpond the location. Having an aqueduct I take its a Roman town, but I don't see the history in it. There are industrial corners but I also see a mosque dome in the background… I'd look into making it an European town (although I like the blue in the 3rd shot) build some solid historical foundation and then layering some modernity.

Thanks for the feedback : -)! My art is not my strong side and I will see what I can do to fix this issue, with your feedback I am sure to make progress : -)