de_3rdstrike

You have some very iconic spots but also a lot of black area that need to be smoothed.

This is an incredibly complex map...

The map looks nice, but it's incredibly confusing to navigate and it is far too cluttered to be a competitive CS: GO map. I could see this map being fun to play in like a hide-and-seek gamemode though. If you want the map to be competitive you have to make some drastic changes to the layout.

Other than that, the sewer area is way too dark, there is nothing keeping players inside the map (2-man boosts outside of the level), the overview is very messy and there are probably 50+ places that needs clipping or else the bomb might get stuck.

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lower connector was closed but can still be used as a peek for CT.

Please start by removing this. It's basically useless and only confuses players.

Have this map ever been properly playtested? I think you should sign up for a playtest but I'm not sure they would allow it here on MapCore, you could always try though

If you want this map to be competitive, you still have a lot to do. If not then it would probably serve as a fun map for chaotic gamemodes and as a good reference to what you can accomplish aesthetically

Quote from gav

thanks for the reply.

Its good to get feedback. I have played it on test against bots so many times it is less confusing but i do appreciate a fresh set of eyes. I initially started this map for a 32 player server so the size and number of routes is based around that. The lighting rule i have addapted was that your weapon never goes black even in a dark area so the sewer area needs some more tweaking for general visibily .

if it was possible to get even close to competitive level i would be happy to do a lot of work. .

As for any competitive level you should use the standard brightness and place bots (both CT's and T's) in areas that are dark or cluttered and see how easy it is to spot them at a distance. It's the best way to test visibility.

It is more than possible to get this level to a competitive state, you have to remove a lot of routes though. I'd say that you should remove the upper routes in middle as a start since these are very OP for the defenders. The good part is that you've already done a lot of detailing in these areas, so you can just block of the routes but keep the detail. The vertical detail will instantly look amazing in mid

Happy mapping!

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Please start by removing this. It's basically useless and only confuses players.

I said that you should remove this corridor, but if you're going to remove most of the top of the map you might as well try to re-implement this connector. It seems like it would become useful