Quote from jackophantNope, it's Donald Trump saying he's going to "bomb the shit out of ISIS", "bomb their oil rigs" and get Exxon in there and "take all their oil".
God help the world if this cretin gets into power.
well he doesn't seem good for the world either !
who is going to vote for that guy seriously?
Quote from laminutederirewell he doesn't seem good for the world either !
who is going to vote for that guy seriously?
More people than I am comfortable believing exist
Quote from jackophantNope, it's Donald Trump saying he's going to "bomb the shit out of ISIS", "bomb their oil rigs" and get Exxon in there and "take all their oil".
God help the world if this cretin gets into power.
Step 1: Bomb oil
Step 2: Collect oil
Makes complete sense.
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That's another part of the current issue: education.
Bombing oil is very efficient it explodes even more 
"You exactly fulfill the theory of conformism"
I'm not a conformist or anything like that, I just accept the fact that sometimes, I just don't know. When you need an engineer to build your house, are you going to study engineering to be sure that he his doing his work properly and not trying to kill you ? I hope you don't.
That's how we reached that level in society, because we trust each other, should we ? Well you never know, but some things can give you clues if you should trust someone or not.
And we come again to that point of view example I gave, that's why politic is hard, because you have to bear with people who don't share the same point of view, there's so many parameters to take that it is nearly impossible to give a right answer for everyone. Social interaction eh, just look at the european parliament ...
Anyway here's a small bit of a talk from Klein who explain in a better way what i've said, and he quite dismiss what I tryed to explain, but on the other hand it clearly show the issue, we all have to share the same point of view if we want to find an absolute truth. 10.27 - 12.30, his example works great for physics, however, for social interactions, it's more though :p.
Quote from RaVaGeDisplay More"You exactly fulfill the theory of conformism"
I'm not a conformist or anything like that, I just accept the fact that sometimes, I just don't know. When you need an engineer to build your house, are you going to study engineering to be sure that he his doing his work properly and not trying to kill you ? I hope you don't.
That's how we reached that level in society, because we trust each other, should we ? Well you never know, but some things can give you clues if you should trust someone or not.
And we come again to that point of view example I gave, that's why politic is hard, because you have to bear with people who don't share the same point of view, there's so many parameters to take that it is nearly impossible to give a right answer for everyone. Social interaction eh, just look at the european parliament ...
Anyway here's a small bit of a talk from Klein who explain in a better way what i've said, and he quite dismiss what I tryed to explain, but on the other hand it clearly show the issue, we all have to share the same point of view if we want to find an absolute truth. 10.27 - 12.30, his example works great for physics, however, for social interactions, it's more though :p.
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hey that's my science philosophy teacher 
anyway, you can concede that we don't trust in the right people nor do we in the right values, right?
You do understand that those terrorist used PS4 to communicate? And do you rembember BF3 mission in Paris with Dima? You remember the date in the game? All inteligence agencies should start to play more video games
Quote from laminutederirehey that's my science philosophy teacher
anyway, you can concede that we don't trust in the right people nor do we in the right values, right?
Aww man your quite lucky to have that guy as a teacher
You know i've never been the kind of person who was respecting people because of their social statuses or their grade, I value people for what they are doing, and the issue is that I have no clue about geopolitics at all, so I can't really say "booo this guy suck so bad, my grandma could do it better than him", I mean i'm worthless in this field and I accept it without trying to be a smartass.
So i'm all mixed about that atm, do we all have to know everything about anything to be sure that we are not fooled, or do we have to put our thrust in people who actually know their stuff about that, while not bothering and focus on the things that you enjoy ?
If you want to give everyone on earth the right to weigh in the political decisions, you have to be sure that they are aware of the real situation, and a tons of other factors, which means that everyone on earth has to respect their duties and be aware of every situations, which is impossible. So we end up like in the "Who wants to be a millionaire" TV show, when the public has to vote, it's always funny to see that people actually vote, while they have no clue at all about the answer, and you end up with mitigated answers while it should be 100% on one, i'm not a huge fan of television tbh, but this one is always fun :_)
On the other hand, I don't accept when some rulers of my country are, in my opinion, making a bad decision.
So I don't know actually, this system isn't bad while it has some flaws, i'm not a huge fan of politics anyway, i'm the kind of guy who thinks that I can live without being aware of politics decisions, except when they seems to be a mistake to my eye, but in the end, I'm not qualified to judge.
@RaVaGe : I apologize I didn't meant to categorize you Jeremy as a conformist or whatever. Also I didn't meant to judge you as we never met; I just know you from your amazing work as a Carpenter. Unfortunately I still don't agree with your opinion. The world change and every domains are concerned. Whatever the analogy, things are evolving and If, by now, I wanted to build my house I'ld go open-source definitely. Which is indeed way better and cheaper than any world best top 10 Architectural company. Because open-source highlight the most vulnerabilities that might be discover. Everybody is talking about sharing economy and France is starting to embed on this way. Look:
- http://coop-coteau.overblog.com/
- When I was in Spain I witness a Spanish entrepreneur working on his open-source village http://www.entropy-factory.com/ and raised over 1 millions Euro making his own cryptocurrency (which conformist don't understand) from Bankia.
And It doesn't mean I'm gonna kill myself because I get interest in building my own house.
I understand what you mean but you can't be that straight. "Les inconnus" said once "You shouldn't think that people are stupid, but don't forget that they are." But with the Internet which allow horizontal communication people are less and less stupid. You're the best example as I bet your English speaking enhanced thank for writing/talking/reading to people from all over the world with the Web instead of your scholarship.
"Well you never know, but some things can give you clues if you should trust someone or not."[/b] I agree on this. Trust and even confidence is key for our modern society to keep trading not just service but even idea and more. The thing is that the actual system is 100% corrupted. And cryptocurrency (which obviously use modern cryptographic algorithm) help to bring that trust because you can't cheat with mathematics. Politic isn't hard at all, it's the current system which discriminate you:Who can be better than you to know what you want? Modern society which rely on cryptocurrency and blockchain technology are going to bring real-time democracy without any illegitimate representative (the useless third party, a small group of people with lots of power in our current system).
Thanks for Etienne Klein's speech. I love that philosopher. Added the video to my Watch later list. If I can share you my point of view in a better way too here we do:
@laminutederire : Is Etienne Klein your teacher for real? Oh man you're such a whore! 
@RaVaGe : "So I don't know actually, this system isn't bad while it has some flaws, i'm not a huge fan of politics anyway, i'm the kind of guy who thinks that I can live without being aware of politics decisions, except when they seems to be a mistake to my eye, but in the end, I'm not qualified to judge." That an obsolete way of thinking that was true six years ago but nowadays innovation from IT is really starting to disrupt society as we never seen before.
Quote from RaVaGeDisplay MoreAww man your quite lucky to have that guy as a teacher
You know i've never been the kind of person who was respecting people because of their social statuses or their grade, I value people for what they are doing, and the issue is that I have no clue about geopolitics at all, so I can't really say "booo this guy suck so bad, my grandma could do it better than him", I mean i'm worthless in this field and I accept it without trying to be a smartass.
So i'm all mixed about that atm, do we all have to know everything about anything to be sure that we are not fooled, or do we have to put our thrust in people who actually know their stuff about that, while not bothering and focus on the things that you enjoy ?
If you want to give everyone on earth the right to weigh in the political decisions, you have to be sure that they are aware of the real situation, and a tons of other factors, which means that everyone on earth has to respect their duties and be aware of every situations, which is impossible. So we end up like in the "Who wants to be a millionaire" TV show, when the public has to vote, it's always funny to see that people actually vote, while they have no clue at all about the answer, and you end up with mitigated answers while it should be 100% on one, i'm not a huge fan of television tbh, but this one is always fun :_)
On the other hand, I don't accept when some rulers of my country are, in my opinion, making a bad decision.
So I don't know actually, this system isn't bad while it has some flaws, i'm not a huge fan of politics anyway, i'm the kind of guy who thinks that I can live without being aware of politics decisions, except when they seems to be a mistake to my eye, but in the end, I'm not qualified to judge.
well he is Impressive to have in class or in conference 
@Seldoon182 yeah he is a former student of my school and has been teaching here for years!
We had an initiative in our university to try to have the input of specialists of geopolitics and such, in order to better understand the issues of our time, especially those related to middle east, I'll keep you in the loop if you want!
@laminutederire : Right on boy! So I guess you should create a dedicated thread which might become popular hehe !
Also we're already see politics hawk on Paris terror attack to ban Bitcoin and Encryption. Your liberty is vanishing: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2015/11/a…on-and-bitcoin/
Quote from Seldoon182@laminutederire : Right on boy! So I guess you should create a dedicated thread which might become popular hehe !
Also we're already see politics hawk on Paris terror attack to ban Bitcoin and Encryption. Your liberty is vanishing: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2015/11/a…on-and-bitcoin/
I will, we already contacted people researching that. The unfortunate fact that one of our students have perished have finished convincing people we need to tackle the issue, and understanding it to begin with.
Quote from Seldoon182@laminutederire : Right on boy! So I guess you should create a dedicated thread which might become popular hehe !
Also we're already see politics hawk on Paris terror attack to ban Bitcoin and Encryption. Your liberty is vanishing: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2015/11/a…on-and-bitcoin/
This is ridiculous, let's also ban sidewalks because terrorists use them.
governments see these kinds of attacks as opportunities to remove things they don't like
Quote from laminutederireI will, we already contacted people researching that. The unfortunate fact that one of our students have perished have finished convincing people we need to tackle the issue, and understanding it to begin with.
We all know someone who knew a victim. Sad true.
@laminutederire : Si avec Etienne Klein vous faites plus de recherche sur le management de la terreur, cela m’intéresse aussi.
Quote from Seldoon182@laminutederire : Si avec Etienne Klein vous faites plus de recherche sur le management de la terreur, cela m’intéresse aussi.
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Je partagerai mes apprentissages avec plaisir, mais n'étant pas légalement autorisé à diffuser la video de son cours, je ne pourrai malheureusement pas partager la vidéo
qui plus est, les conférences à propos du terrorisme et de la situation au proche et moyen orient seront tenues par des chercheurs historiens, geopoliticien ou philosophe des instituts de recherches de Paris, mais il se peut qu'on parle de cela, on est dans le flou puisque c'est l'établissement qui s'occupe de contacter les dits chercheurs pour s'assurer d'être écoutés. (Les élèves arrivent à faire venir les politiciens ou pdg (Juppé ou Taubira par exemple) ou des artistes, mais ils ont plus de difficultés à faire venir les experts, même si parfois certains viennent (on avait un économiste il y a quelques semaines d'ailleurs Giraud si je me rappelle bien)) ooups ça fait pas mal de parenthèses !
Please stick to English in threads or use PM's. Merci!
Quote from FrieChampPlease stick to English in threads or use PM's. Merci!
sorry
I'm translating then
Seldon asked me to share if Etienne Klein did a conference about terror management
and I answered him that I'd gladly share what I've learned but that I am not allowed to share the video of the conference for legal reasons.
Then I explained that it wouldn't be Klein making the conference about terrorism and the middle east crisis, but researchers in philosophy, history and geopolitics, and that I am in the dark about the schedule since the school is handling it because students like me don't have enough credit to invite them, and that the only people we can invite are presidential candidates or minister, or Cac 40 CEO, or artists, even if on some rare occasions we manage to invite researchers and I gave an exemple of a french economics researcher who visited us for a conference on capitalism!
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