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Windows 10 upgrade

  • Upperdawg
  • July 31, 2015 at 4:17 PM
  • Upperdawg
    • July 31, 2015 at 4:17 PM
    • #1

    Hi,

    Just want to check if anyone has made the upgrade yet and if there has been any issues? There's (almost) always some issues in the beginning with some programmes and since the deadline of the CS:GO-contest is around he corner and I haven't read anything about SDK issues. It would suck to have to deal with all that instead of mapping.

  • tomm
    • July 31, 2015 at 4:32 PM
    • #2

    why would someone want to upgrade though?

  • laminutederire
    • July 31, 2015 at 5:33 PM
    • #3

    Personally windows doesn't propose me the upgrade yet, I don't know about you!

    @tomm , you'd want to upgrade if it proves to be more stable than W8.1 . I often discussed with friends about it, and it appears half of us are having trouble with system stability, for my part updates often fuck up my computer. Others do not have any trouble, probably like you.

    Ultimately you know that you gain a few more years of microsoft support, which isn't that bad if you like to keep your computer for quite some time :)

  • Buddy
    • July 31, 2015 at 6:21 PM
    • #4
    Quote from tomm

    why would someone want to upgrade though?

    Because win 8.1 is weak.

  • cashed
    • July 31, 2015 at 6:26 PM
    • #5

    Win7 has been nothing but stable

  • jd40
    • July 31, 2015 at 6:45 PM
    • #6

    I upgraded my win 7. The only thing I had to do was to reinstall nvidia drivers. Hammer seems to work fine so far. This thing feels pretty much like win 8, doubt there are many changes under the hood. So everything that worked in 8 should work on 10

  • Squad
    • July 31, 2015 at 6:46 PM
    • #7
    Quote from cashed

    Win7 has been nothing but stable

    Same here. Never tried or even seen Win8 in action.

  • laminutederire
    • July 31, 2015 at 7:16 PM
    • #8

    Win 7 will probably be replaced in a few years by W10, if it proves to be as stable.

    But the question is mainly a concern for W8 users, who were unhappy for some of them. W8 seems unforgiving, careful and competent people like @jackophant have all their W8 computer running smoothly, but some other like me had trouble at least once a week.

    @Symix was it as smooth as advertised? They were assuring that the upgrade would be easy and so on, so I wanted to know. I would have done it myself, but my computer does not allow me to do it yet, so I'm waiting.

  • leplubodeslapin
    • July 31, 2015 at 7:29 PM
    • #9

    I did the upgrade yesterday, from Windows 7 to Windows 10. As I expected, it was painful simply because i've been used to the same OS for 6-7 years.

    Now, it works fine and I'm not lost, "i'm settled". I don't really feel any performance improvments yet, but when you have a great computer already with SSD, there was already nothing wrong or laggy with windows 7. Maybe it's less expensive and can deal better with critical situations, I don't know yet but it feels stable (no crash or big bug or whatever).

    I had big troubles yesterday with my video driver, because the OS itself was trying to instal it in the same time, causing systematic meaningless error messages (Nvidia drivers stupidity) but it was not able to install it apprently. I just had to forcequit the installer from my task manager and instal my own driver manually. So, everything's alright now.

    I haven't seen any Metro crap or anything, the Start menu is full of crap so the first thing you do is delete everything and put your own softwares and shortcuts. Also be very careful not to agree to all the things allowing microsoft to spy on you and shit, it's a bit scary to see these options on Yes by default, but you can disable them (but you know that most people won't even look at them :x ).

    The animations are fine, it's very smooth and it stays discreet (from my opinion). I don't really like the simple-design trends and they are everywhere on Windows 10 but therefore it stays simple and easy to read.


    Don't forget not to connect with your windows live account, it's a trap ! They got me :( Fortunately i found a way to disable the password being asked every time i come back to my computer.

    Just, does anyone here have an alternative for the default windows image viewer ? (something fast and simple, like on windows 7)
    Because on Windows 10, the thing called "Photos" is not really what i want. It's slow (due to collection and albums i guess, things i don't care about), you can't even zoom with the mouse wheel and the very useful button that fit to a pixel ratio of 1:1 (with the monitor) isn't present anymore.

  • jd40
    • July 31, 2015 at 7:53 PM
    • #10
    Quote from laminutederire

    Win 7 will probably be replaced in a few years by W10, if it proves to be as stable.

    But the question is mainly a concern for W8 users, who were unhappy for some of them. W8 seems unforgiving, careful and competent people like @jackophant have all their W8 computer running smoothly, but some other like me had trouble at least once a week.

    @Symix was it as smooth as advertised? They were assuring that the upgrade would be easy and so on, so I wanted to know. I would have done it myself, but my computer does not allow me to do it yet, so I'm waiting.

    Yeah as I said - I only had to reinstall graphics drivers because I had 10 fps in 3d games. You don't have to do it tho I don't really see any benefits. I think it boots slightly faster but I have an SSD anyway.

    Quote from leplubodeslapin

    Just, does anyone here have an alternative for the default windows image viewer ? (something fast and simple, like on windows 7)

    Because on Windows 10, the thing called "Photos" is not really what i want. It's slow (due to collection and albums i guess, things i don't care about), you can't even zoom with the mouse wheel and the very useful button that fit to a pixel ratio of 1:1 (with the monitor) isn't present anymore.

    I still have the old photo viewer, might be a remnant from the win 7 upgrade?

  • tomm
    • July 31, 2015 at 8:38 PM
    • #11
    Quote from Buddy

    Because win 8.1 is weak.

    but I'm still on win 7 and had zero problems so far.. If I ever feel like upgrading I'll probably just switch to linux lol.

  • leplubodeslapin
    • July 31, 2015 at 8:38 PM
    • #12
    Quote from Symix

    I still have the old photo viewer, might be a remnant from the win 7 upgrade?

    Yes probably. I did a complete instal of windows 10 (with a USB key and formatting my SSD), it deleted everything related to windows 7.

    At first I installed with the upgrade options, saying him to keep NOTHING, and at the end it kept lots of things and half of my SSD was already full of useless data xD

  • blackdog
    • August 1, 2015 at 12:24 AM
    • #13
    Quote from Symix

    I upgraded my win 7. The only thing I had to do was to reinstall nvidia drivers. Hammer seems to work fine so far. This thing feels pretty much like win 8, doubt there are many changes under the hood. So everything that worked in 8 should work on 10

    Well actually Win 10 streamlines the whole system: Win 8 so called "apps" run in a sandbox, the whole "Metro" is a basically a different system. Win 10 cleanses that, allows "apps" to run in "windows" etc.
    I don't call that "minimal change under the hood".
    I hope the minimal "metro flat" look is now native, cos often in Win 8 application glitches tear down the mask and you can see the shitty W7 skin underneath.

    Quote from cashed

    Win7 has been nothing but stable

    Yeah but Win 8 is fuckload faster to boot.

    Also, this is the first time I read that Win 8 is an unstable system, it never crashed on me in 8 months, never read anything about that before.

    I got the proposed update, haven't done it because I want to read some reviews first, if it fucks up games and tools or not.

  • laminutederire
    • August 1, 2015 at 12:56 AM
    • #14
    Quote from blackdog

    Yeah but Win 8 is fuckload faster to boot.

    Also, this is the first time I read that Win 8 is an unstable system, it never crashed on me in 8 months, never read anything about that before.

    I got the proposed update, haven't done it because I want to read some reviews first, if it fucks up games and tools or not.

    I am a bit curious, have you built your computer then install W8 on it, or was it a computer by a manufacturer like hp or Toshiba or dell, acer etc?

  • SuperDuperYeah
    • August 1, 2015 at 2:47 AM
    • #15

    (I'm under windows 7). I'm probably going to upgrade whenever Epic releases an official "hey UE4 works great with Windows 10". Until then... I'm waiting. I'm absolutely in no rush to upgrade.

  • blackdog
    • August 1, 2015 at 9:33 AM
    • #16
    Quote from laminutederire

    I am a bit curious, have you built your computer then install W8 on it, or was it a computer by a manufacturer like hp or Toshiba or dell, acer etc?

    I bought an Asus ROG laptop :)

    I have some friends that built workstations themselves tho, they were early adopters and don't remember them complaining. I'll try asking.

  • laminutederire
    • August 1, 2015 at 10:24 AM
    • #17
    Quote from blackdog

    I bought an Asus ROG laptop

    I have some friends that built workstations themselves tho, they were early adopters and don't remember them complaining. I'll try asking.

    Mine is a two years old hp laptop, so there is an addendum from hp which is not updated by them since a long time ago, which explains the numerous interferences with W8 I guess. And for now people I've met with issues with W8 have something similar, which helps defining what is wrong with it.

  • Buddy
    • August 1, 2015 at 10:31 AM
    • #18

    I had to upgrade from 7 to 8.1 to use more than 192Gb of ram and I'm glad theres an upgrade path from this disaster now.

  • will2k
    • August 1, 2015 at 11:15 AM
    • #19

    The Win 10 setup file already downloaded on my system through windows update (on win 7 currently). Will do the upgrade tomorrow on Sunday after I finish backing up my files (just in case).

  • jd40
    • August 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM
    • #20
    Quote from blackdog

    Well actually Win 10 streamlines the whole system: Win 8 so called "apps" run in a sandbox, the whole "Metro" is a basically a different system. Win 10 cleanses that, allows "apps" to run in "windows" etc.I don't call that "minimal change under the hood".
    I hope the minimal "metro flat" look is now native, cos often in Win 8 application glitches tear down the mask and you can see the shitty W7 skin underneath.

    Funny you would say that, I was just greeted with this when I ran red orchestra. (Game works fine later)

    I think I even read somewhere they removed classic shell? Guess not.

    [Blocked Image: http://i.imgur.com/eSpzskC.png]

    Overall win 10 is just as inconsistent as previous versions. in true windows spirit.

    Example: Volume control is new, volume mixer is still from vista.

    [Blocked Image: http://i.imgur.com/o4Q59uh.png]

    [Blocked Image: http://i.imgur.com/xJqnHGn.png]

    They didn't even update the icons, they're still 7/vista style.

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