de_ map, don't have a name yet WIP

Hi everyone, this is the first real map I've created and the second project I worked on, as of now map is playable, and before detailing, I think it is wise to have feedback about the layout, this is why I post this here!

Here's the workshop link with 20 screenshots approximately, don't know if I should post these here too though

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…s/?id=449848578

Thanks in advance!

I fixed the radar, it is now working successfully, sorry for this past inconvenience!

Quote from Muffin

post images in the Original Post. It attracts more people and lets them comment on the go!

Thanks for the advice

here are some:

These are just connectors like in houses in inferno, I thought it wouldn't be very disturbing since actual action is not supposed to happen there, and also because you can go past in 2 seconds, but I'll try and widen these. I do want some precision about bombs it's, so as to understand better what I should modify or if I will better off rethinking the whole thing

Quote from st0lve

It looks like a DOD map...

Just by looking at the overview, I have no clue how to attack any of the bombsites with only 5 dudes. Or how the hell do you get 5 dudes onto the bombsite without being taken out by a single guy with an AWP.

I hope that when playing it it seems more obvious how you can play the map (top bombsite might need some work, hence the question marks). Arrows shows how I intented it to play.

For your other concern, I tried to force Awper to be sniping at exposed spots, like it is "high risk high reward", so it can be put down easily if he is alone. I am however open to suggestions on the matter of how doing this correctly

Muffin is it better and enough like this?

Before:

After:

I know but not all paths are narrow, I thought that since narrow passageways disfavor snipers, it could be interesting to balance their vantage points by forcing them not to camp because if they do they would be at a risk. But I may be wrong though. I do have to thank you, between the two screenshots I do prefer a lot more the latter

Major changes, layout-wise but mostly visually, I tried to reshape the layout in regards of previous feedback, hope it is better. Also I do want to know if the visuals have improved in the good direction, appreciated to have some feedback

here's the link for screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/NaDom

the link to the map is in the first post

thanks in advance!

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Well I think I'll change some things but I will have to play test it, because bots are behaving weirdly, I mean they only go to one bombsite for example, so real players will help finding some more insight than playing against bot gives. As for stairs I have 1:1 ratio for steps, 20cm wide for 20cm height approximately, which ratio is used?

Quote from jackophant

if you're using the same file name but are making large changes to the VMF, you need to generate the NAV again because the bots will be accessing an out of date file. They'll try and run somewhere, but the walls will be stopping them

open the console and type:

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nav_generate

If this doesn't work let me know.

I did that but there is still one wall they continually jump on trying to go through it, so I'll have to edit that myself because the auto nav mesh isn't perfect. However, even if they can move perfecty well in one bombsite, they just don't go there for some reason, unless I plant the bomb there, probably because it's a bit further away, like 2 seconds if I remember right. The weirdness of source engine maybe

@jackophant thanks but I do feel I need to playtest it to know what I need to simplify the most