[CSGO] de_Arches

Workshop link?

Love the brushwork in the second image.

Layout-wise it looks like there might be a few superfluous connectors in there. Case-in-point, the double-door hallway near t-spawn; that set-up works really well in D2 because both teams reach their side of it at about the same time so you get an interesting stand-off. In your map it will seldom see any combat because it's unlikely to get used in a rotation and if CT try to flank through it the T's will be long-gone. Of course without a version to run around in that's all conjecture!

Looking like a nice crossover of the classic Dust and Dust2 ;D

Could we have a workshop link?

Workshop link is now working btw... http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…s/?id=377601770

Italy theme? It could work, it is just used a lot...

Nice work on the new layout. Also still kinda dislike the name.

I love the layout of this map. you might want to nerf the boost in mid though. There was one point I had like 3 people jump scouting at me

Actual feedback besides stupid stuff above. I love the theme actually, I think it works really well. Some more feedback.

http://imgur.com/eexApC0 

It doesn't really hinder gameplay it just feels weird.

http://imgur.com/xHaYXuU

This is needed for the angles, which I like, but I feel like it's just so much unused and empty space.

http://imgur.com/D1NBeYX

on B, this could maybe be opened up, (close off the second stair), for another place to hide for CT in B, which I think is something the bomb site is lacking.

http://imgur.com/b1qF9Dl

this would be the view from there, maybe raise that wall a little so it can't see the heads as they pass by.

http://imgur.com/sh4g6Vb

I know this is going to change, but still, change up the texture a little here.

http://imgur.com/LCBjwev

CT visibility is a huge issue here

http://imgur.com/hGT0gDk

This still works in terms of flashes, but it could be more streamlined.

http://imgur.com/ZNMEZoh

Why block this off?

A little thing, maybe add a place for Ct's on long.

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Also if anyone has suggestions for how to improve A long for Cts, I would love to hear them.

Right now, 1 smoke can cover the whole lane. Yes you have the arched bit on the side, but as was seen numerous times through the playtest, it's suicidal to try and push through as I saw multiple multi-man spray downs there.

They can also hold very high angles from on top of the boxes (sometimes easy vision over the smoke) and can stand very flush with the box and be minimally exposed with very good vision. In the interest of balance and T entrances to the sites, I think long needs to be less CT OP, and more viable in T strats.

Perhaps you could extend the raised bombsite area into long to give CTs that higher angle that doesn't involve standing on boxes, also maybe make the boxes that are visible from long a similar height to that of D2 where you can hide behind them standing up, but haven't got a massive height advantage when you jump on them. I would also slightly widen long so that if a smoke is placed centrally, there is a slight gap each side of it.

Basically... just look at D2 long, except you have "crossover" and the bombsite in reverse order and "car" isn't really a viable position to play from in the maps current state. The boxes you have which would be fairly similar to barrels at the top of A ramp are a bit of a CT trap. It looks like a good position, but then you're instantly held down by fire, a lot of which can penetrate thick angles of that box.

I think what makes long effective on D2 is the fact that it's wide enough for Ts to progress shoulder to shoulder, but each CT position is revealed bit by bit unless CTs jump out at you.

I hope you can pick something useful out of that drivel... I'm finding it hard to describe, lol

Do you have any new images? I really like the look of this!

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yes, I know its been 1 year and I'm still using dev textures

1 year and using dev textures? HA!

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This is no record to be proud of :cry:

EDIT: Happy 3rd Birthday Stupa

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I hope you're not looking for a detailed version of the map! I only have dev images to offer at the moment (yes, I know its been 1 year and I'm still using dev textures).

http://imgur.com/a/AyEm5

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Thanks for the playtest guys! If you have any feedback I would love to hear it!

I felt like mid was too important for B takes, and I too often had to defend B from attacks from mid, but not often from the B path, I felt it was shame though. Was it intentional?

Mid still feels way too long and the encounter is really awkward (It's all fought sideways and up and down a hill). T's ideally need to use the "safe" B>mid connector to use mid, nullifying the main entrance to mid for Ts.

B itself still feels too flanky around the room off mid. Trying to defend the site there are so many opportunities for CTs to move around. And CTs can easily retake from all B entrances. I think it's fair to expect the main T entrance to be the safest exit, but CTs can appear there very quickly.

A seemed OK, but it heavily relies on boosting or taking mid. Mid is hard because CTs have 2 routes that funnel directly to it and the only way around that is to boost. Boosting is a great feature if you have the coordination to utilise it, but it shouldn't rely on it as a method. Especially that casual can't boost and there would be even more CTs to defend each route. Perhaps a way around this would be to make the wall self boostable for Ts, but CTs have to boost with a person.