Why do you need both of these in Counterstrike? Why would you mix two in the same map most importantly?
I can think of one draw back to the player clip, and maybe this is a game bug I don't know. When you nav_generate, mesh will go outside of the player clip brushes. So why player clip?
I have no experience with Hammer or whatsoever, but the only reason I could think about is for smokes/grenades/flashes. I could be completely wrong though
Nah clip doesn't block nades. It might block the bomb however?
Quote from VayaNah clip doesn't block nades. It might block the bomb however?
that could be it aswell, like I said I have no experience but blocking the bomb would make sense and these places look like spots you could get the bomb stuck on
They have the same functions, so they're probably both there for the same reason that block bullets doesn't block bullets.
Quote from hamilton5Why do you need both of these in Counterstrike? Why would you mix two in the same map most importantly?
I can think of one draw back to the player clip, and maybe this is a game bug I don't know. When you nav_generate, mesh will go outside of the player clip brushes. So why player clip?
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They are the same in Counter-Strike with the added benefit of clip in preventing the nav meshes from overflowing outside the clip brushes.
For this reason, use only clip brushes (unless you want to manually delete nav areas from the non playable area when using player clips)
Quote from hamilton5Why do you need both of these in Counterstrike? Why would you mix two in the same map most importantly?
I can think of one draw back to the player clip, and maybe this is a game bug I don't know. When you nav_generate, mesh will go outside of the player clip brushes. So why player clip?
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Player clip is important for games such as L4D, where the ai spawns outside of the playable area. There is really no reason to use player clip in cs unless you are making a custom map with ai only areas.
Player clipping is important in every game because prevents the player to get stuck, in frantic situations as well as careful movement.
Considering how much you backtrack without looking in CS (or most of shooters), smoothing minor corners/edges is important.
Or what did I miss?
Quote from blackdogPlayer clipping is important in every game because prevents the player to get stuck, in frantic situations as well as careful movement.
Considering how much you backtrack without looking in CS (or most of shooters), smoothing minor corners/edges is important.
Or what did I miss?
It's been about the difference of those 2 clip brushes 
It's obvious that games need those to work smooth.
Yeah but just above I read someone writing that clipping is not important.
I also think initial question is a bit poorly formed and I see comments going in all directions.
According to the guide, if i am reading correctly, a clip_brush will stop players AND bullets, while player_clip won't stop bullets? Which to me makes sense, cos you might want to have a fence but be able to shoot through it.
Clips are not blocking bullets. You can also throw your weapon through them. But Clips are blocking the C4 for example. The only difference between Player_Clip and Clip is, that one is blocking bots and the other one not.
Then I'd say it's explained badly in the guide…
While we are at it: Is the "Block Bullets" texture also blocking nades? I always want to throw nades bouncing of stairs like on ramps, but instead, they come back to me 
I'd really like to be able to do that.
Pretty sure blockbullets also blocks nades and works similar to a nodraw brush (but due to the way bullet penetration works in csgo neither of these will unconditionally block bullets unless the brush is thick enough!)
It's probably just this:
Quote from will2kThey are the same in Counter-Strike with the added benefit of clip in preventing the nav meshes from overflowing outside the clip brushes.
For this reason, use only clip brushes (unless you want to manually delete nav areas from the non playable area when using player clips)
Or maybe it just doesn't work as intended...
That's what I found out:
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Well, humans=chickens>bots
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Quote from spencePretty sure blockbullets also blocks nades and works similar to a nodraw brush (but due to the way bullet penetration works in csgo neither of these will unconditionally block bullets unless the brush is thick enough!)
Blockbullets blocks nades ... and that's about it. You shouldn't use it to block bullets. It's either very buggy, or it simply doesn't work.
Quote from SquadBlockbullets blocks nades ... and that's about it. You shouldn't use it to block bullets. It's either very buggy, or it simply doesn't work.
Isn't it dependent on the thickness of the brush?
For regular brushes/func_detail it's dependant on the thickness and the material that is applied to it, afaik.
But the blockbullets doesn't work like they should. The name suggests it block bullets, so thickness shouldn't even matter for in this case.
In my experience it depends on the thickness of the brush, but I've never really done any objective tests to determine this. It's very possible that in the instances it has worked for me it has been a fluke
The name is definitely misleading, though, it won't block bullets unless the brush already meets the criteria for blocking bullets via the bullet penetration system (as with any other world brush)
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