Hello!
This is my try for the contest 
im trying to make a level for q3 for a while, but never finished one... So i'll try to finish this one.
First i tried something more vertical, like q1dm4 or q2dm2 (hangar)
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but... im not sure if this is a good start.. or if vertical maps are harder to get right... I'll try a little more with this 
Ok. hard reset on the map, trying to make something more simple, so i have a chance to finish it
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How do you guys usually test the gameplay?
It depends. If it's just a part of the map maybe it's enough to walk and jump around. For the whole map you should probably play it a bit with bots, see if there's something you want to change and then do it again with real players. Ideally spectate while others play, if you also play your self you might not see how others play it.
Quote from ThurnipOk. hard reset on the map, trying to make something more simple, so i have a chance to finish it
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How do you guys usually test the gameplay?
How are things progressing?
yesterday i worked a little on it
I tried to make a shader similar to quake1 splitgate to use on the teleport, but using Q3Ase i replace and lost my other shaders, for my other project 
anyway, in feeling more comfortable using radiant and using shortcuts, and getting a little faster
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Working the visuals. I want to use only stock textures
Screenshots are dark. I think my brightness setting on q3 is messed up.
And my radiant (1.6) is having some problems to compile bot files (aas, correct?)... there's some setting i need to change to make it work properly?
Quote from ThurnipAnd my radiant (1.6) is having some problems to compile bot files (aas, correct?)... there's some setting i need to change to make it work properly?
Any error messages?
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oh, now the bots are working 
Thanks!
some new images
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today i added some items and detailed the higher corner of the map... probably i'll comeback on that area in a future.
and today's build... with working bots, probably
http://arthurdepadua.com/labs/leveldesign/q3trnp1.pk3
Please, comments are appreciated I'm a little insecure about the gameplay...
Oh, and i gathered some questions i have, maybe there's someone around who could help me
1-Some places im using texture with scale 0.25 instead of the default value of 0.5. This is a good pratice? this can break my map? or is just a matter of size of texels? And there's someway to make the default value to be .25? cause sometimes i need to change this value everytime i apply a texture to a brush
2-What is the different between nodraw and caulk?
3-using func_group is a good pratice? it have any impact on the game itself, or it's just a way to keep elements together, inside gtkradiant?
4- On some brush faces pointing up to the sky, should I use sky texture or caulk texture on those faces? i'm using sky texture...
hello
1: .25 is fine and will not break your map. the setting to make default texturing .25 is in gtk under edit/preferances/settings/brush
2: not really sure to be honest... i never use nodraw... Id use a patch or a shader with polygon offset for my decals etc.
3: I dont use func_group unless im making a mover. Some do, some don't... its a mapping style thing mostly. See if you like it.
4: use caulk
Your map is missing a texture, you seen to be using a custom texture on most of your walls. Always setup a clean install of quake for testing maps before posting em, saves lots of head aches The layout seems cool. could use a lot more graphical polish... apart from that you seem to be going on the right path.
Good job so far. looking forward to playing your final!
missing basewall04_rept.tga hmm could be a team arena texture.
i've selected a bunch of materials from stock q3 to use in the map... Cool all those stuff is modular
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adding some details, but yet a little lost and confuse about how to make it look more interesting
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About overall brightness:
In my Q3 client, the map looks fine, but in screenshots looks very dark, There's a good way to see if the map is with a good ambient light?, not too dark, not too bright?
i was about to upload a new version, but there's not much changes and one trim texture is missing. Also, the tex is still missing when running TA. So no idea where that texture came from. I think i need to clean up my q3 (working) folder.
You could try to recover the files with a Ubuntu installation on an USB drive. Have used it before, here's a tutorial (not sure it it was the one I used). If you want to try it, try to use the computer as little as possible, so idealy download the linux install from another computer. There's also other software you can use but this worked for me and was quite simple.
edit: forgot the link http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13706/re…ubuntu-live-cd/
hummmm i have ubuntu installed on another partition, i use it to scan with a very old scanner that runs on a scsi controller card. But since my scanner died, im not using it anymore. This recovery process works fine on sdd? i tried recovering using a random soft i downloaded, but the .map file was corrupted and (apparently) old.
i'll try to recover using ubuntu. Meanwhile, i setup a very clean install in other hdd... outside (scumbag) steam. Right now i'm working on a 2 day old version of the map. Lost around 7 hours of work.
Thanks for the tips
yesterday update. Minos suggested me some cool tips to improve the overall look of this area
thanks mate
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im having some trouble to make a shader to be used as circular flare...
I have a thurnip_fx.shader file on scripts folder. on this.shader file i have this shader:
textures/thurnip/fx_flareRed
{
surfaceparm nolightmap
surfaceparm nomarks
cull disable
deformVertexes autosprite
{
clampmap textures/thurnip/fx_flareRed.tga
rgbGen wave sin 0.5 0.5 0 0.2
tcMod rotate 20
alphaFunc GE128
}
{
clampmap textures/thurnip/fx_flareRed_stripe.tga
blendfunc add
rgbGen wave sin 0.5 0.5 0 0.2
tcMod stretch sin 1.1 0.1 0 0.2
}
}My idea is to have a circular glow on a layer, and a horizontal stripe of light on other layer. Both will scale up and down using sin.
I'm havin some trouble because neither quake3 or q3ase are loading my fx_flareRed.tga and the stripe file file. I think
using this assets.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5442600/fx_flareRed.tga
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5442600/fx_flareRed_stripe.tga
there's some catch to make those guys load the assets?
Update:
omg, it's working. As always, human mistake.
here's the final result
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And yet, my Q3Ase is not loading the assets.... Any idea if there's some config i must setup ?
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