Func_walls and SKY

    Tried that already:

    Problem is it didn't work because frag grenades and our magazine models when we reload will fall through the grates. Clipping only blocks player hulls.

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    What about the Null texture?

    Same thing I was thinking. Make it a func_illusionary like skdr said, then copy the brush and put a null texture on it, that would stop the clips from falling threw.

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    iirc, models on the HL engine are lit based on the brush directly below them.

    I think xempest got the answer here.. The model wont be lit on the func_wall brush because, well HL dosnt do that.. As xempest said, models are lit by the brush below them and since the brush under this model is a func_wall, it's getting lit by a brush underneith that again. And here you got a black pit of doom or something.. That could be the problem

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    Same thing I was thinking. Make it a func_illusionary like skdr said, then copy the brush and put a null texture on it, that would stop the clips from falling threw.

    Seems to work. More testing is required.

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    Same thing I was thinking. Make it a func_illusionary like skdr said, then copy the brush and put a null texture on it, that would stop the clips from falling threw.

    Seems to work. More testing is required.

    Actually the NULL doesnt show up as a Hall of Mirros effect thankfully through the func_illushionary. However, the player model still goes solid black.

    Here is Freeman doing his thing standing on a func_illusionary, CLIP, and NULL all in one.

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    what is this hostile intent ive been hearing about

    It's a Halflife 1 mod. Took the team forever to produce (4 years, was it?). Anyways, it was finally released a while back.

    It's actually a pretty nice mod, very realistic. Used to follow it when it started but lost interest after 3 years of nothing. Glad it's out now and hope it does well with Source.

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    iirc, models on the HL engine are lit based on the brush directly below them.

    Ya, with that being said you're gonna have some trouble with this. If I come up with something I'll be sure to let you know.

    Don't exactly understand why your getting this problem. I started up the old hammer and made a little test map. Compiled it with the latest Zoner's tools with only -nowadtextures. It worked fine for me, the player model stayed there, was lit fine, and all the guns I dropped stayed as well.

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    I simply made a func_illusionary with a null brush directly on it. For the func_illusionary I used these settings:

    Render Mode: Solid

    Amount: 255

    I then made the same size brush and assigned the null texture to it. I have one light_environment and an info_player start.

    .map is here if you want to compile it yourself: http://s90567463.onlinehome.us/test.zip

    Hope this helped.

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    It's a Halflife 1 mod. Took the team forever to produce (4 years, was it?). Anyways, it was finally released a while back.

    damn team

    btw optic: this may be a compiler tools issue, try using merl's, xp's, and zoners, see what the results are

    I tricked the eye. I made the sky .tga files darker to the point where the bottom goes to a solid black. Then I used the texture BLACK for the whole bottom of the map so that the skybox seemlessly goes into the black textured brush at the bottom of the map.

    So now not only does it look more like a night map now.

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    But it makes the player models happy standing over the func_wall railings since below him is a solid brush.

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    You can never use the null texture for this kind of problem. The texture cause the face to be stripped before RAD and it is therefore not lit. Since a model is a lit with the data from the first world brush directly below the origin of the model it will go black when being above a null face.

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