HATRED

    On a piece of film, you can record any kind of disgusting act of violence or rape, or you can film The Godfather part II. You can make filth with games as well, that's what this is. People need to recognize that this game acts as a simulator for genocide, explicitly, the sole purpose of the game as far as any reasonable person can tell is to find and murder groups of civilians. That's ridiculous and the industry should self-regulate against that or risk looking like a completely irresponsible marketplace.

    LOL, FmPone i think you can close this threat as well. (serious here)
    Don't act like a lil kid, maybe someone wanted to share his thoughts on Kim's game . . . just saying.

    I'll leave this thread open as long as the dialogue continues to be reasonable. There is going to be an industry-wide debate about this game, of that I'm very sure... I don't have a problem with the course the thread has been on, people are exchanging views, although people feel differently about the topic. As I've mentioned, I think the developers need to take responsibility for how people regard them after they make any kind of game, it's the responsibility of an artist to take ownership of their art after all. The thread will remain open as long as people can discuss the topic in a civil way.


    Kim Kardashian doesn't seem relevant to me, call me crazy

    Quote from FMPONE

    As I've mentioned, I think the developers need to take responsibility for how people regard them after they make any kind of game, it's the responsibility of an artist to take ownership of their art after all.

    And they are, belive me they are

    Natural born killers had something to say, it's heavily stylized and comments a lot on how high profile violent crimes are portrayed in the media and reacted to by the public. Also you get an uncomfortable glance at Mallory's childhood, the main violator abused as a child, gives a potential motive / reason for behaviour in later life right away. Oh and the film industry doesn't have to deal with the flak the games industry gets over violence, even in 1994.


    The GTA argument needs to stop too. GTA is so, so self aware, this is not. Satire, parody, GTA knows what it is and it does that well, even if it does come close to the line sometimes.


    As creators we should be responsible for what our work says to the wider world and as people working in games, a medium at the forefront of being criticised for what we're saying we should be ultra aware.


    What is this game saying to people who play it?

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    Kim Kardashian-like games are putting more negativity in this world than Hatred. That was my point. But what do I know, I'm a hippie who doesn't buy nice new clothes every month. Also a pacifist who gets furious seeing video's capturing injustice, beating, animal cruelty, etc. Why? It is real. And if I came across that situation in real life. I'd try destroying people like that, making a exception to the pacifist rule.But Hatred doesn't enrage me, because it is not real. It shouldn't enrage anyone who has some hope in humanity as you know it won't lead to everyone going apeshit, killing eachother.

    No it won't make people go apeshit and kill each other.

    But

    1. When the wider public is worried about that anyway and a lot of people are fighting long and hard to change that opinion what's the point in risking their hard work?

    2. It rewards killing innocent people, making light of something that's pretty horrendous with no reason / repercussions / explanations. Even in Carmageddon you could still complete a race by actually winning, not just running people down. And I'm sure your main targets were the other racers, who were out to kill you, hardly innocents.

    3. This isn't a shoddy game like the columbine one, this had a certain degree of production value so will get noticed, meaning any negative impact it has on the gaming industry and culture as a whole will be more wide spread.

    So capitalism makes light of killing innocent people daily so it's ok for this game to make light of it too?

    Large groups of stupid people (your words not mine) who a lot of people have been painstakingly educating on how games are not murder simulators and that they can be deep, meaningful and diverse. So best we go throw this bombshell of a game in the mix?

    Maybe make a game about the problems with capitalism and how it values human life? If that's something your passionate about. Something that could challenge how people think. Not this rubbish.

    Ok, so capitalism is the cause of innocent people being killed. (Again, your words).

    Hatred, looks as if it will be mostly making light if innocent people being killed (yours too).

    This still makes Hatred a shitty idea...

    But what about the part where it looks like a shitty twin stick shooter where the majority of the enemy AI doesn't attack you?


    EDIT: While we may not be able to come together and agree about the merit of a genocide simulator, we should ALL be able to agree that gameplay looks a bit shit right?

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