DE_Theos By Vinneri

Feedback from images: Detail/adjustment for eye detail ("NOT GAMEPLAY")

1st image

The new addition to the concrete is a nice addition giving it a more realistic feel compared to the solid "Tile texture" used before. The white building with the big heart one it. The roof texture could use some adjustment in terms of moving the texture down to match where the edge ends. Plus maybe add a little more overhang to the roof to give more detail.

2nd image

The roof with all the foliage on it seems a little repetitive.

3rd image

This is by far the best looking part of the map as of right now. Not much to see change excluding the addition of decals on the floor and or around the broken in concrete area.

4th image

Where the gravel connects to the concrete area, it seems to be black from the image. The concrete texture choice also seems a little plain, maybe change the texture to dirt or something "Again from image view, not sure what's behind the camera".

5th image

The floor could use some missing planks and decals. The roof above seems it could use some more detail or variation to keep it repetitive. ("Or an addition of a more room under construction feel i.e. de_vertigo").

6th image

The skylight could use a beam detailing the parameter of the edges of the skylight. The rooms feels a little to flat, add some more variant detail to the walls. ("Bumps, pillars, arches")

7th image

Seems alright from what I can see, just adjust the texture's by the stairs so they align properly.

8th image

roof texture on both buildings need some adjusting. Plus the foliage on the building with the flag decal could use more variation .

9th image

The displacement could use some more grass around the edges. Some props ("Crates, garbage") on the sides.

10th image

Additional detailing to stairs leading into building ("Rails added to sides or middle") as well as the roof needing additional work.

11th image

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Again these are just things that I would personally improve at the moment. Really nice work on the level, giving it a unique feel. Keep up the progress and hope to see some more additions to this level truly making it a masterpiece.

Great job on the new additions to the map. The detail given in the first image really helps define the space and give it a little more personality. In the third image, I love the choice of color for the bright yellow colored overpass, it really helps catch the players eye. Although the ground could use some more randomness in terms of more grass around the edges. The fourth image has really nice and excellent detail and much personality to. They choice and design of the white tower is really interesting as well as the 2 tall metal towers in the back.

In all, the map seems to have come along way since you showed it. Thank you for taking some of my feedback in to account. Good luck on your future endeavors.

Looks like an interesting theme

but there's something weird going on with the lighting, did you mess with postprocessing?

and avoid using decals from overpass, it's just too specific to that map.

I think you should focus more on lighting, better sun angle, more brightness and hard shadows etc.

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Looks like an interesting theme

but there's something weird going on with the lighting, did you mess with postprocessing?

and avoid using decals from overpass, it's just too specific to that map.

I think you should focus more on lighting, better sun angle, more brightness and hard shadows etc.

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I agree, it looks very flat, maybe you could look at your shadow controller and change the shadows to be a bit darker.

I would also use displacements for most exterior grounds, just allows you to make them look better. Use a bit more alpha on the pebble road too

Finally there seems to be a mix of quite noisy textures and unnoisy textures, this looks odd, try to replace some of the noisy wooden textures with less noisy ones. Also that grass texture, find a better one, I'm not sure what is up with that one, but it looks very low res.

I don't think you have to worry about lightmap scale yet(actually I almost never change that)

Try setting light_environment's SunSpreadAngle and light_directional SpreadAngle property to something small, 1-5

Way better looking this time around!

Hey Vinneri looks like a good map The biggest thing that stands out to me is the heavy contrast in images 5, 7 and 10 where a lot of the surfaces are near black. I would maybe lighten a few of the textures as my eye is being drawn straight to those dark areas. the underground tunnel lights also look to have the same problem making the ceiling very dark , I think a fill light at a lower intensity would help out a lot there.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm…ent_Hallway.jpg

I think the macro detailing is great around the map

And i much prefer the shadows on the first image as i feel it gives the area more weight the second image looks as if it is a very cloudy day and the light is being diffused by the cloud cover, which contradicts the skybox atm.

Hope this helps !

your shadowy areas are very dark, makes the lighting look unnatural

The general layout felt great! I think A could have cleaner cover (as both CT and T taking A site, it was a bit difficult to lock onto enemies) but the sites had nice unique feel. Maybe B could use more room but that's forgivable IMO.

I'm not sure if these positions were intentional but I'll list some really hard angles:

-Ct spawn to heaven/sniper nest at A (you have to check both left and above)

-As CT pushing A tunnels, when you go up the ramp, you are exposed from a lot of angles (above and left and right and from outside A tun).

-As CT at A (above bomb site), you can see the passage with the rugs (you see T's feet and legs before they see you)

-The dark staircase next to T window needs to be clipped more in my opinion. It's misleading and I also managed to catch a couple of CT's off guard by hiding there >

I have 2 main criticisms: Cleaning up a bit and more cohesive environment art.

1. Cleaning up: I'm not sure if this map is optimized but I had FPS drops. There were quite a lot of props scattered around the map and some of them felt unnecessary i.e. the haystack area would drop my fps.

2. Cohesive environment: a lot of props and textures varied a lot. There would be old-village "stone/wood" areas but the doors would be modern and new and there would be industrial objects. Just as an idea, you could try making the residential areas something like this:

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Another examplke is that instead of pine trees, you could use palm trees instead to help build that sub-tropical cuban atmosphere.

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last thing you said was cleaning unnecessary props. I will do so, but how I do it without making map look less detailed? Thanks for the feedback!

Only put props where they're actually needed from a gameplay standpoint. Then you can put more props to make it prettier(but don't overdo it) less is more.

Loved all but the one for the whole place.

The details are incredible.

Better?

Well, no, this is great.

But is there anyway to make this either a browser (where say, websites would automatically be filed into physical locations, even to where some things are just left out?)

Or, a file system for a PC? Regular 'ol PC game arrows and spacebar and whatnot. Avatars that hold info and tell you things, and they should probably be able to fight and whatnot.

But if there was some novel and applicable AI, the avatars could do things for you like figure stuff out and retreive things from the web, even outside of the browser aspect copacity. Naturally communicating avatars, so long as the output didn't use too much space and time, or could be trained when the event arises, they could naturally anticipate and maximize their usage and potential, interact. However, there is a real thing called video game addiction. Apparently the game Flappy Bird went down for this.

Thanks.

Plus, if you make this a reality, I wont sue you for any of it. However, if you do happen to not only make this, but profit by insane margins, a gratuity would be appreciated.

It'd be the best thing to happen to the computer since the invention/discovery/creation of the internet.