Loocks very nice!!! Good job and good luck
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This looks really cool, you catched the aquaticparky-mood quite well !
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can the mapcore server do a 5 Vs 5 game? Maybe on a non-playtesting day.
I'd be up for it

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Lighting looks so much better now, nice job!
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Well done, looks fantastic

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Thanks guys

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fire me a message or an invite for the playtest if there's space.
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I'm pretty much ready for a 5 vs 5 playtest
Did another clipping pass, with help from Exodus and Fnuggi. Thanks again!I changed the lighting to a warmer colour.
These giant windows are now breakable. Should provide for some more interesting gameplay, like faking.
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Caustics! Although you can't really tell in this picture

I just love those glass/metal railings to much. A note to this particular scene though, have you ever seen tiles slant like that? A subtle overlay of tile edge could sort that I assume

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fire me a message or an invite for the playtest if there's space.
It's tonight. I added you on Steam.
Quote from SpherixI just love those glass/metal railings to much. A note to this particular scene though, have you ever seen tiles slant like that? A subtle overlay of tile edge could sort that I assume

I actually have tiny trims on the bottom and top of every ramp ... seems like I forgot the ones in the picture. Thanks for bringing it up

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I'd put in a threshold strip. Metal one would look good.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/TrafficMASTE…89?N=5yc1vZbnar
They are used all the time in public spaces to stop wear.

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I'd put in a threshold strip. Metal one would look good.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/TrafficMASTE…89?N=5yc1vZbnar
They are used all the time in public spaces to stop wear.

Or even grates for draining excess cleaning/water... Not that unusual with an aquarium next to it

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my feelings
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…s/?id=324127178
As we talked about this wall should be thickened so you have *some cover* for peeking that path
- This wallbang should be removed. not that it's really useful. Consistency is good though

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…s/?id=324127188
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Map looks great and Plays great too! hoping it gets in an operation.
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The 5on5 PT was fun

Here is my feedback:
Clipbusters busted again and found a unintended boost spot at T-Spawn:
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And again. I could walk on this little thing:
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Biggest issue of this map imho is the view out of this maintenance space at A. CT's standing on the spot in the 2nd screen can pwn rushing T's easily, because the CT models are hardly visible in front of the rock-texture in the back.
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Another possible boost. Intended?
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And finally just a screenshot with a nice angle of the map

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If you want to watch the 5on5 again out of my perspective - surpriiiiise:
External Content www.youtube.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.€: I forgot to add, that holding B site is a very hard mission. There are lots of entrances and i ended up not knowing where to look at. Maybe you could add some unique objects to the different entrances to B, to make calls easier.
€2: In addition to this, i made some further thoughts on the B site. Currently you have 5 entrances to it. Mixed on the lower floor and on the upper floor on both sides of the bombsite. I think that's one reason why it's so damn hard to hold. What if you'd block the marked door on the upper floor of the site? It would make it much easier for the players on the bombsite to check all entrances. Both upper entrances would be on the same side, and both lower entrances would be on the other side. In the playtest i had no idea where to look at and where to place myself. I felt vulnerable from everywhere. I think this simple change might fix it. What are your thoughts on it?
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Thanks for your feedback and the video!
Quote from El_Exodus€: I forgot to add, that holding B site is a very hard mission. There are lots of entrances and i ended up not knowing where to look at. Maybe you could add some unique objects to the different entrances to B, to make calls easier.
€2: In addition to this, i made some further thoughts on the B site. Currently you have 5 entrances to it. Mixed on the lower floor and on the upper floor on both sides of the bombsite. I think that's one reason why it's so damn hard to hold. What if you'd block the marked door on the upper floor of the site? It would make it much easier for the players on the bombsite to check all entrances. Both upper entrances would be on the same side, and both lower entrances would be on the other side. In the playtest i had no idea where to look at and where to place myself. I felt vulnerable from everywhere. I think this simple change might fix it. What are your thoughts on it?
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I guess the amount of entrances at B depends on how you look at it. I consider there to be 3 entrances, standing below the balcony.
But several people said it was hard to hold, so something has to be done about it. I could try your suggestion, just not sure if blocking that door will have a big impact on the flow in that area and for rotating.
Also, I made some custom bombsite decals. It's a quick job, so don't comment on the quality too much

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Nice!
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This might be a weird idea- Open up this wall so you can view through it (even partially- concaved?) but bullets are clipped. a couple seconds warning to help the CTs here. As jackophant said last night though our issues as a ct team might of been down to general placement/tactics rather than map imbalance

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Alright MOAR feedback
(A Site)As i already told you: The window in maintenance room could be bigger for easier flashes. I also thought that there could be a window on the front of the building, but that might make CT nades too easy. So nvm maybe

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Also there are lots of CT head peeks which are kinda hard to check all in 2 seconds. For example this one(CT view):
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and this one(marked with hitmarker):
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The first one can easily be diabled by moving one rock slightly to kill the sightline. The second one can be less CT sided by lowering the ground (displacement) to the level of the hitmarker on the left side in the following screen. So you'd end up having a little rock wall in the enclosure:
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In addition to the head peeks, there are quite some spots for CT's to hide. You could lower the number, by adding another rock/clip combination to this point, so CT's will either hide in the close corner after the maintenance room or behind the "far" rock behind this spot. It would still be a powerful position for CT's though.
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As you can see in those screenshots, too:
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You also see there, that some rocks, have wrong collision models. I pointed some of them out:
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Another minor thing is, that you can see below the water surface. It doesn't affect gameplay, it just doesn't look that good. Adding a Clip to the ground of the water will stop palyers from going too deep in the water.
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And the final two minor issues: Where are the red pipes going? There is nothing behind the wall. And there are wooden planks growing out of the rock in the 2nd screenshot
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Hope it helps

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nuuuuuuuuuuu! did i miss the play test for this map?? any way i can get my hands on the bsp just to check out all the changes?
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