Dahell is happening in Kiev

    Close to office where i working, people organized donations collection point for support a people of Donbass. People throw from 100 to 5000rubls(150$) in a box.


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    Shit is getting serious, I'm not liking this one bit. It's the beginning of the cold war all over again...


    http://wemustknow.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/col…hoping-for-ww3/


    And that is how Europe will be forced into globalization with the US against the rest of the world and especially the asiatic block, honestly guys, just take a look at what the Transaltantic trade and investment partnership is (NAFTA but for two differently regulated markets). I swear it prooves how serious the situation is. I think we live a very important historic moment.

    http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm


    If one compares several of the nations involved in this insanity with the pillars

    listed in the article from the link above, it would appear that the entire planet

    is doomed.

    As well, here is some food for thought. The un, using Latvian pilots has for the

    last several years been spraying chemicals in the lower atomsphere ( a continuation

    of the nazi weather modification programme). Carbon and other particulates account

    for between 3 and 10 percent of the heating factor, whilst vapor ( ie. moisture in the

    air) accounts for 90 percent of the thermal factor. The weather modification programme

    that the un is running is in fact increasing the moisture in the air and raising the

    global temps, which in turn is causing the polar ice melt to be so drastic. The benefactors

    from this melt are US,Russia,England,Canada and several other nations. Russia recently

    submitted claim to un for 12 million acres of arctic land. This means they stand to benefit

    much more than any of the other nations involved. They also recently in beautiful Siberia

    changed all the road signs to include English versions. Most of the English speaking countries

    are in the west. So why would anyone spend such large sum of money changing road signs

    for peoples that are out to get you? Makes NO sense! All of this madness reminds me of

    the pick pocket. Distract you with the right hand whilst she lifts your man purse with the left.

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    The US shot down an Iranian passenger jet full of like almost 300 people in the 80s, and we never apologized


    Really? I thought that the US paid out compensation not too long ago? If we're talking about civilian airliners downed by foreign militaries, obviously the shooting down of Korean airlines 007 by the USSR is quite relevant, but even more so would be he shooting down of Siberia airlines 1812;


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    Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 was a commercial flight shot down by the Ukrainian military over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001, en route from Tel Aviv, Israel to Novosibirsk, Russia. The plane, a Soviet-made Tupolev Tu-154, carried an estimated 66 passengers and 12 crew members. Most of the passengers were Israelis visiting relatives in Russia. No one on board survived. The crash site is some 190 km west-southwest of the Black Sea resort of Sochi and 140 km north of the Turkish coastal town of Fatsa and 350 km south-southeast of Feodosiya in Crimea. Ukraine eventually admitted that the disaster was probably caused by an errant missile fired by its armed forces.[1] Ukraine ended up paying $15 million to surviving family members of 78 victims ($200,000 per victim).


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812

    It took quite some time but Ukraine to admit fault that it downed the airliner but eventually they did. Not saying that Ukraine actually downed MH17, but since we don't know exactly who is responsible yet (despite journalists and politicians being so hawkish) it shouldn't be ruled out. Furthermore there was talk of apparent US intelligence which claimed that the operators of the missile were wearing Ukrainian army uniforms... to which they explained it was likely defectors.. oh yes, very convenient...


    Anyhow, until we know.. we don't know.


    State department is now talking about intelligence that points to Russia giving the seperatists more advanced weapons systems... how did they pick that up then? They had no idea about SA-11 being in their hands... Hell they didn't even have a clue Russia would invade Crimea.. so how do they know the aforementioned? Journalists who pressed the spokeswoman at the press briefing about said evidence didn't get any answers, if this information is genuine then it should be presented to the public...

    This topic is like a hell blaze, it's always statement vs statement and parties are trying to give their version of the truth.

    Most horrible shit about this is, that there are still corpses lying around and relatives/friends who have to see their beloved persons die in mid of such a non-sense conflict. Whoever provoked, answered and let this get worse, will have such a bad karma in the future - at least I wish so.

    I think people trying to understand the motives and reasons behind these horrible events as well each other's point of views through debate is not a bad thing (as long as they are respectful). During the cold war or WWII people from the East and West couldn't exchange views so easily and I think it's great that we can do this today. Whether MapCore is the right place for this is a different story, but I for one don't visit any boards with international users that seem more appropriate. In fact I don't visit any other boards.


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    There is weather modification in use, mostly by companies who have interest in that because of their products, but not in such a large scale. One example for you: Daimler did this once (maybe several times) to let the cumulousnimbus rain down before it could turn into hail over their ground, since they had a brand new production of cars standing outside.


    Anyways, I agree Frie, it's easier to exchange, but it's also easier to fall for some one-sided opinion. Whether it be from the West, Russia, pro-russian Ukraine or Ukraine. Sometimes I kind of feel, like I'm in William Gibson's Johnny Mnemonic - infowars all over the place, only thing left are cybernetic implants for everyone!


    What actually is to my favour right now: Germany doesn't play the puppet of the USA anymore, at least not in the same way it would one or two decades ago.


    Climate change is a very misleading term because the Earth's climate is ALWAYS changing, it's always either warming or cooling, there's no such thing as "stable global temperatures". Just keep this in mind because anyone can spin this issue in any direction they want


    From the little I know about this conflict, it all points out to be economic battle between two superpowers. On one hand the US wants a slice of the pie supplying energy to europe (through the middle east) because it's just a matter of time until the petrodollar collapses, and of course Russia won't allow that since their economic superiority depends on Europe being dependent on their gas. The US tried to resolve the Syria gas pipes situation with a war which was prevented by the threat of a direct confrontation with Russia (even though the media says it's because of the people and social media, or because Putin is a peace loving nice guy - yeah right), and in exchange for stepping on their toes, NATO stirs shit up in Ukraine, which ultimately lead to this airplane being shot down.


    This is a situation that will drag on for a very long time, but I doubt it will ever turn into a full blown military combat between the West and Russia. The cold war was never over and won't be anytime soon. As long as human leaders keep focusing on the domination of each other we will have to live with proxy/covert wars breaking out all the time

    Just like i said a few mounth ago, the new "maidan" starts right now in kiev!


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