Destiny

Played a couple of strikes with friends last night. The whole "Let me open this door, while you fight of these waves" is really overused and I'm getting tired of it very fast. Combined with my complaint since the alpha about the bosses taking 20 minutes of pumping bullets in them before they go down is causing me to want to play this less and less.

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Haven't played but this seems pretty accurate right?

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ROFL, heres their other

Well, here is something to chew on. When the trailer for the game sights really awesome sources for gaming news such as Forbes and USA Today.

Yeah, not everything they say is going to be super honest.

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Well, here is something to chew on. When the trailer for the game sights really awesome sources for gaming news such as Forbes and USA Today.

Yeah, not everything they say is going to be super honest.

I personally swear by the AARP's game recommendations.

I know that people from here worked hard on this but I have to be honest and keep it real. I was all over this, I promoted it heavily by posting updates of new videos in this thread and I of course got it on day one. My initial reaction was very positive and I praised the gun play and excellent visuals. Convinced several friends to get it (one of them even bought a PS4 for this) and I defended the game when people criticized it. Sure, I had some minor criticism myself but nothing that kept me from wanting to play more and more.

However, after having played 20 hours or so, the original appeal has completely faded for me. More and more things started to bother me and the more you play the more some glaring issues become really apparent.This game is wrapped up nicely but it's hollow inside. Practically every mission follows the exact same pattern. You revisit locations again and again. Fight of some enemies, fight of waves while doors get opened or computers get hacked and then spend 20 minutes pumping a gazillion bullets into a boss. Story missions, strikes, raids, it's all basically the same. Speaking of a story, where is it? Playing with friends helps a bit but it doesn't change the constant grinding. Loot isn't really special, the same for leveling and multi player is fun for a couple of rounds but that's it. Also for a shared world shooter there's really not much interaction with other players other then waving to one another.

None of it makes sense either. It feels like they set out trying to create a cinematic experience but somewhere a long the way those ideas got cut. Perhaps for future DLC. Because honestly, a lot feels stripped due to things making absolutely no sense whatsoever. It's just a bunch of random encounters you fight through without any real sense of place or overall story. I'm not even max level and I'm already completely disillusioned by this. It's like meeting this really pretty girl. You start talking, you hit it off everything is going great and you setup a date. A couple of dates in and your thinking this is it and you're thankful for finding her. But as the relationship evolves you realize she's got not much else to offer besides her looks. You can't have a real conversation, she doesn't have any depth, she's shallow and before long you start finding excuses to cancel dates ultimately leading to you setting out for greener pastures.

Seriously considering selling this to get some of my money back.

That's what I thought it sounded like before release... Glad I never bought it Just looks like a boring version of Borderlands, as harsh as that sounds.

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That's what I thought it sounded like before release... Glad I never bought it Just looks like a boring version of Borderlands, as harsh as that sounds.

I feel the same, haven't even managed to put 10h in. Yet it will sell more than every game we've worked on combined...oh well

I'm so torn by this. I want to really love it and get lost in it. But I just can't. I'm wanting some real meat additional content for this, but having already paid $60 for the game I don't see myself risking more money for more of the same. I really like the Bungie folks and I know they worked very hard on polishing this thing but...well, Sprony basically said what I was thinking.

tl;dr: what Sprony said.

I see Destiny is struggling a bit like Diablo 3 in terms of end game. Destiny's only raid "Vault of the Glass, 6players" is interesting but Bungie needs to make more of them. With that said, you can't judge a game like this without even having reached max level though. Like Diablo, once you reach max level, this is where it gets interesting. Give it a couple of months and I'm sure folks at Bungie will give people more stuff to do. Hell, Diablo 3 got praised in 2012 although we all know it was completely flawed (and still is to a lesser extent )

My roommate plays evey day, is level 30 and is enjoying the game a lot with his clanmates with team chat. I played a few hours myself as well. PvP is really fun! The vehicles are also a blast to drive with.

I was all over this game at first but I completely lost all interest when I reached level 12 or so. I just can't find any reason to invest any more time in this when I have so much more interesting stuff to do on my backlog.

I don't even understand what's the need of an "MMO" part because it adds absolutely nothing to the experience. The game experience could be summarized as a shallow coop game where you can go to a hub to see other ghosts ignoring you to complete their silly errands as quickly as possible, to *maybe* get some satisfaction out of a slight stat increase. There's no ingame economy at all, all your items are trash as soon as you get a slightly better one. You don't get to make new friends since social features are pretty much non-existent. The backstory of the game's universe is actually pretty kickass but you don't see any of that during gameplay.

Let's take WoW for example. It's a game that you can play for weeks, go play something else and go back anytime. There's always a sense of progression and millions of different stuff to do. Not feeling like doing dungeons today? Fine, you can fly somewhere to farm materials and sell them on the Auction House, a place where prices are controlled by real economics and big shot players can even manipulate it. Hell if you want to be a blacksmith and just make items to sell on the AH you can do that too if you are so inclined. In WoW there's a sense of ownership of your character, you grow attached to it because it feels like a real, unique character. It's your avatar in that dream world.

In Destiny everyone looks exactly the same. I can't tell if someone is level 1 or 20 by looking at their gear alone since they all look the same. MMOs are all about showing how big your virtual penis is and that's not fun in Destiny.

Don't get me wrong Destiny is not a bad game. The metagame (which makes or break an MMO) just isn't there.

I'll give this a rest for now and maybe come back in 6 months or so.

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With that said, you can't judge a game like this without even having reached max level though.

I'm sorry tr0nic but that's just bullshit. I know what you are trying to say and you got a point that one would be able to get more out of it. But if the road to max level is a tedious one, that's no fun and hard to get through surely one can judge it by then. What you're saying is that it's ok that the first 20 hours are boring because it gets fun later (which it doesn't, max level doesn't change any of the flaws nor does adding more of the same missions). A game should be fun all the way through.

If a game is not fun and tedious there is no point spending time with it. I guess the goal of actually playing a game is to have a good time and not to grind levels XD

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If a game is not fun and tedious there is no point spending time with it. I guess the goal of actually playing a game is to have a good time and not to grind levels XD

Don't be naive.

Getting to max level gives you access to all the best loot out there. Maybe the problem with the story mode is that it is not rewarding the player enough? I can tell you that getting that legendary, exotic or other epic guns/armor in multiplayer/co-op/raid is pretty rewarding and fun. Upgrading your gear and guns gives a sense of progression to the game. The game can't please everyone of course. Some type of games suit us better. Destiny is just not one of yours?

this game is not my destiny

ive played it consistently and am level 29. Beside the varierty being extremely lackluster, the biggest thing that is going to make me throw my controller through the wall is constant connection issues.

Two strikes for PS4 (so effectively two side missions), three new story missions (which effectively won't have a story), a raid and three pvp maps for 20 euros.

You got to be fucking kidding me.

Really looking forward to this, just got the season pass, after having a week playtime on the xbox one I switched over to the PS4 (better experience imho) and just caught up to level 28...time to do the raid and hit 30 before this drops. Btw, had a lot of connectivity issues on the xbox, but none since switching to the PS4 (got the destiny bundle, cnr)

there's still connection issues if you have 2+ ps4s on a router. That and Rogers in canada is throttling or something

This video is brutal. If you love the game, don't watch it and if you worked on it, ignore it because it's fucking harsh.

Having said that, this guy nails down a lot of issues and even though it's harsh, it well founded and documented. Truly an interesting watch. Not only about Destiny but also about the whole preorder bullshit and false promises this industry is having to deal with more and more.