Battlefield 4

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Second Assault is a timed exclusive for the xbone, for around two weeks or something.

@ Beck, are you on a wireless setup? Adjusting the network slider in the options menu might help, might also be something with network throttling that you can try to turn off.

Nah I'm wired with 60mb/sec internet. Every other game I play is fine and my download speeds aren't throttled.

Are you guys still getting DDoSed? As I said all my friends were experiencing the same lag as me and a couple of them have different ISP's, some wired and some wireless, so I'm guessing it's not our side where the problems are occurring?

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fuck i srsly think about premium damn ;/

but that calendar doesn't show when DLC's are out, just Chinia rising - or i'm missing smth ?

I guess they've not announced the dates yet, I was just guessing based on what they did with the BF3 expansions.

"The war has changed" - solid snake + battlefield narrator.

"War never changes" - Fallout 3.

2-1 war has changed.

Looks cool though. BF-trailers never fail to get me hyped.

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God damn, every Battlefield trailer just leaves me wanting to wet myself. How can there still be people not totally on board with the Battlefield experience?? I talk to a lot of people IRL who are completely indifferent towards it yet wet themselves over every new CoD.

COD takes minimal brain effort.

CoD doesn't suffer from inconsistent animations. Remember vaulting in BF3? I find animations to be tighter and more predictable in CoD, even if it looks silly.

I also find gun inaccuracy (perhaps it's more realistic?) to be really annoying in Battlefield. I just feel like I'm spraying all the time. You can't even properly double tap for a kill. I definitely prefer Counterstrike's system and CoD is closer to that than Battlefield is.

There's also the weird collision issues, like jeeps on terrain and that. Everything feels jittery and then there's the netcode whatever issues.

It's very much not a tight experience for me. Very dramatic and cool but not very precise and consistent. It doesn't help that the hardware requirements are through the roof and the simulation stuff doesn't properly work at lower than 60 FPS. I guess a lot of my issues would be resolved if I had a better PC.

I just play Battlefield for the vehicles and cos it's cool to play in a team with so many players but I find the basic stuff, e.g. shooting people, not very fun. If I played more games these days I would totally give CoD another shot, it's just different, not worse. I'd rather see a mix with the best of both worlds, blasphemy I know xD

Baseline: Please focus more on gameplay experience, less on art. But yeah, I'm not on the BF4 team

Agreed with Chimeray. As much as I hate to admit it, Call of Duty is fucking cocaine. Ancient but super-tight animation system, Quake 3 engine rigidness, near-perfect hit registration and hella-responsiveness of basically everything.

I think the BF franchise has prioritised art and lens flares a bit too much the last iterations tbh, so I can see why some people stray from it.

As much hate as it gets, Call of Duty is fun, it's that simple. Yeah, some of the stuff they use is recycled and apart from some minor tweaks and new features, it's essentially just a map pack every year, but it's an awesome one. I completely agree with Puddy and Chimeray, it's addictive. It's a tried and tested formula that just works - year after year. It's easy to pick up and jump straight into and the fact it has such a big competitive scene behind it helps.

I agree that Battlefield has prioritised visuals and the game play does take a hit, but only a small one.You can't beat it when playing with friends. The maps, the destruction, the vehicles, it's just chaos. Every single time you play it feels like a totally different experience. They're both day one purchases for me!

I've been plodding through the campaign while some of the dust settles on MP, and I have to say I'm really impressed. Yeah, sure, it's a bombastic military shooter but it's a really good one - this might be the finest one since Modern Warfare. The South China Sea mission is one of the greatest FPS levels I've played in recent memory.

Congrats to everyone here who had a hand in this; I'm going to put a lot of time into this game.

Question to DICE dudes:
vegetation in BF3/4 is it rigged by hand ? and blended with actual weather on the map ? or just procedurally animated by engine ? as far as i know and in some TECH vid's this is the second option, but some ppl are arguing with me, and i just want to get sure

I would be amazed if it isn't no. 2. It will be rigged in some form though.

God this game frustrated me last night to the point where I just alt+F4'd it, and I hardly ever do that in games.

I was playing on Flood Zone (Which I usually enjoy) and every time I spawned I just died from sniper fire I couldn't hide from on the roofs. At first I was spawning in on my friend and died a few times so I went and spawned on the capture points instead thinking it'd be better to spawn on a point we own and run in on my own. The frustrating thing was I spawned on the enemy teams side of the point so I was immediately greeted with a gun in my face.

It seems like both teams use the same spawn points for each capture point. So you could spawn on your side of the point or on the enemies side of the point. I'd have thought they'd have separate spawn points for either team and you'd only ever spawn on your side of the point. Sure you might still have enemies in your face but chances are less likely since there should be friendly guys coming from the same direction as you.

Also, it'd be nice if they didn't use spawn points with enemies sat next to them. Nothings more frustrating than spawning only to be dead before the screen fades in from black (Which takes ages I might add).

Rant over.

I did have an awesome game on Zavod later in the night though

It happens and it's retarded. I can't remember which map I played but on that this was actually really horrible. You spawned far away from the point. Towards the enemy.

It happens to me all the time on Conquest.

I don't mind it spawning me outside of the capture zone as that stops people just spawning to stop the enemy capping it. But please make sure I at least spawn on my side of the map!

China Rising shots:

http://imgur.com/a/DNfQd

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this is fucking interesting console haters, isn't it ?

not particularly

Afaik that's how it's been for pretty much every FPS game last gen? PC has had a much lower market share for a while now.

IIRC console sells more, but the community peaks and dies faster.