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Upgrading CPU without doing a fresh install of Windows?

  • Minos
  • February 8, 2011 at 6:44 PM
  • Minos
    • February 8, 2011 at 6:44 PM
    • #1

    Hey, I googled for this but couldn't find a definitive answer. I basically want to replace my CPU with a better one (just the CPU, not the mobo) and some people said that that could screw windows up. Has anyone here tried that before? I don't want to do a fresh install since that would be installing hundreds of updates and installing all the software crap again.

  • mjens
    • February 8, 2011 at 6:49 PM
    • #2

    I changed my old Socket AM Phenom X2 2,4GHz to Socket AM2+ Phenom X4 3,5 GHz (with mainboard and RAM). My Windows 7 asked for new drivers and rechecked registration. I have a MSDNAA version of Windows so there was no problem with re-registration. If you have OEM it might ask you to call Microsoft and tell them that you had to change some parts of your PC (I had that problem with my old Windows XP - they gave me a new code via phone).

  • Psy
    • February 8, 2011 at 6:52 PM
    • #3

    I've changed CPUs several times over the years and Windows doesn't give a shit.

  • Thrik
    • February 8, 2011 at 9:41 PM
    • #4

    Shouldn't cause any problems. If you have a new CPU it should work with both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows so you're unlikely to have a problem in that respect (at one time they only supported one or the other), and if you do need to reactivate Windows it shouldn't be a problem — normally takes more than one piece of new hardware to necessitate reactivation.

  • Minos
    • February 8, 2011 at 9:58 PM
    • #5

    Nice. I'll try and let you guys know if my PC explodes or something. Thanks!

  • Sentura
    • February 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM
    • #6

    your pc won't explode, the interrupts will be handled before that happens. at worst, you'll just have to reinstall windows

  • mjens
    • February 9, 2011 at 7:59 AM
    • #7

    Sentura, never say never!

  • WD
    • February 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM
    • #8

    Changing the CPU will not cause windows to lock up on you but changing motherboard on the other hand might do that, though I only know one instance of that happening and that was Vista. Dunno if win 7 does that anymore.

  • dux
    • February 9, 2011 at 9:56 PM
    • #9

    Where's mino? I guess it blew up.

  • Minos
    • February 10, 2011 at 5:25 PM
    • #10

    Worked like a charm, the performance gain so far is incredible.

    However I'm worried it's running a little hot. It's idling at 57ºC and peaking at 65ºC, but the ambient temperature is really hot today too. I think I'll get a new case fan.

  • Sentura
    • February 10, 2011 at 5:30 PM
    • #11

    try with a better cpu cooler if you feel it gets unbearable, though 65 is pretty high. my cpu used to idle around 37-39 (celcius) and peak around 45-50. i don't think i've ever had temps above 55-57 with any part of my computer

  • dux
    • February 10, 2011 at 5:31 PM
    • #12

    Is it running at default clock speeds? If it's overclocked then the stock cooler will start to struggle as it was never meant for that. Still, it's always better to get a 3rd party cooler regardless.

  • ⌐■_■
    • February 10, 2011 at 5:32 PM
    • #13

    peaking at 65 degrees on a hot day is nothing to be too worried about, but a better cooler is always a fine investment =) especially when you have alot of hot days.

  • Minos
    • February 10, 2011 at 5:45 PM
    • #14
    Quote from killertomato

    peaking at 65 degrees on a hot day is nothing to be too worried about, but a better cooler is always a fine investment =) especially when you have alot of hot days.

    Yeah I'll do that. Better spend a few bucks on a cheap case fan than having to buy another CPU. I didn't overclock it by the way.

    Fun fact: I scavenged this CPU from my ex-work PC I bought when Ubisoft shut down

  • Serenius
    • February 10, 2011 at 6:57 PM
    • #15

    You could always try spraying some compressed air directly into the CPU if it's running hot. If that fails, nothing has better cooling power than a spray bottle of cold water (except liquid nitrogen)!

  • Sentura
    • February 10, 2011 at 6:59 PM
    • #16
    Quote from Serenius

    You could always try spraying some compressed air directly into the CPU if it's running hot. If that fails, nothing has better cooling power than a spray bottle of cold water (except liquid nitrogen)!

    or, you know, vacuums

  • Minos
    • February 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM
    • #17

    I've just went and bought 2 case fans and the situation improved a little. The CPU seems to idle at 50ºC now (it was idling at 57ºC). That's OK I guess because it's pretty hot today (34ºC or so).

  • Thrik
    • February 10, 2011 at 9:44 PM
    • #18
    Quote from Minotauro

    Yeah I'll do that. Better spend a few bucks on a cheap case fan than having to buy another CPU. I didn't overclock it by the way.

    Fun fact: I scavenged this CPU from my ex-work PC I bought when Ubisoft shut down

    To clarify: by cooler they mean the big heatsink+fan that attaches to the CPU itself. Although Intel's stock Core 2 onwards coolers actually perform about as well as most third-party coolers in my experience, I dunno about AMD.

    Also be sure your cooler is totally attached to the CPU — I once left one corner not pushed in properly and temps shot up. Also if a cooler is repeatedly the conducting gel on the cooler might rub away and stop being effective, again increasing temps.

    Stuff to keep in mind!

  • ⌐■_■
    • February 10, 2011 at 9:49 PM
    • #19
    Quote from Minotauro

    I've just went and bought 2 case fans and the situation improved a little. The CPU seems to idle at 50ºC now (it was idling at 57ºC). That's OK I guess because it's pretty hot today (34ºC or so).

    for such a hot day, in a room with probably bad isolation, I think that's fine.. in the summer (it gets around 30 degrees max here) my cpu (phenom II x4 940) idle's between 51 - 55 degrees. that's about 10-15 degrees more then during the coldest winterdays. works like a charm, never had any problems apart from having applications making use of all 4 cores...

  • Minos
    • February 11, 2011 at 12:23 AM
    • #20

    Hey I think I'm playing the idiot here. I noticed there are two different CPU temperature values:

    [Blocked Image: http://thiagoklafke.com/misc/temp/cputemp.jpg]

    Which one should I pay attention to? I did a quick google search but I only got conflicting information about this.

    Edit -

    I installed Real Temp and it gives 48ºC idle while HWMonitor gives 54ºC.

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