Video games can never be art (?!)

    He's so very wrong. VG is one of the few existing mediums with tons of artistic potential.

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    Well the arguement is probably that the former has a deeper meaning, though to say there is no 'art' out there that isn't arbitrary nonsense would be lying. Either way this whole debate is tired and tedious.

    What does art mean? Err, not sure. What does game mean? Um, I don't know. Are games art? OF COURSE THEY ARE/AREN'T.

    Not to take sides here but the God of War Picture is a great document of craftsmanship first and if it's art depends on what it conveys. The defintion of art I learned and take for my self is if your work has a message. Handicraft is only a helper. If that bed is meant to say something than it's art. If God of War is beautiful but doesn't have a message then it's not art.

    So I figure that I'm not the only one that automatically just scroll further down every time one of these fucking stories pop up

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    Its all about interpretation. The orignal mario brothers is an artistic outlook on the path of man.He is constantly moving forward, trying to amass wealth (coins) experiment (eating drugs and flowers) and chasing after the perfect woman (beautiful,

    princess, makes him cake). You have to overcome the many pitfalls on your journey (death pits) and whenever it seems your journey is at a close,

    your goal attained, they put the carrot a little farther away from your nose.

    So is the life of man.

    -/v/tard

    what's with the comparissons? can't reason about taste, right? the reason why this discussions is irrelevant is because art is in the eye of the beholder. anyway, m done with this discussion. games CAN be art, like a painting or a sloppy bed. ffs the very reason of the core of this discussion is rooted in the statement games ARENT art, why seriously go into that? everything can be art.

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    I've seen a whole presentation on that, only it was earnest. Trying my hardest to find it. In the meantime, enjoy this.

    so because you shoot a gun, you're actually giving off repressed homoerotic tension?

    Who has the power to say what is art ... ? Thats like saying you are ugly even an other person things your beautiful.

    I am glad people are discussing these things, but when a person claims he is right he has to think first why he is a fool.

    I am sure a lot of people will not understand what I am saying because it is based on my personal memories.

    (Buts thats my opinion)

    What is art, you ask? It must be definition day.

    But won’t it be easier to define art by what it ISN’T? Perhaps. Actually, probably.

    So here’s my take:

    1. Art isn’t the thing you hang on your wall to match your sofa.

    2. Art isn’t the thing you hang on your wall, that you are sure your friends will approve of because they all have a copy hanging on their walls.

    3. And on that note, art isn’t a copy or reproduction of an original piece of art.

    4. Art isn’t something featuring the year’s top five “decorator colors”

    5. Art isn’t something you made because you think somebody will buy it.

    I wish I had a list of inspirational quotes from great artists of the past regarding art. We can see that they knew what it was, because of what they left behind: ART.

    And THAT makes me think of the time I saw Van Gogh’s Starry Night at the Art Institute in Chicago.

    The place was packed with other people all trying to see the paintings as well. You were supposed to be polite, look at the painting, and move on. . . nope. I was rude and I stopped. For a long time I stopped, because the painting required me to look at it for a long time.

    That’s art. It makes your eyes not want to leave. It makes you not want to leave.

    But realistically, it doesn’t have to be Starry Night, or Luncheon Of The Boating Party, or Young Girl Writing to be art. Even you or I can make something that is truly “art.”

    All it needs is to have at least a smidgeon of something that all three of those paintings have—it has to be INTERESTING.

    Maybe it matches your sofa, too. That’s OK. If it’s interesting then you can call it art. Your eyes want to look because it’s interesting, not because it matches your sofa.

    And maybe it does contain all five of the current year’s top decorator colors—but forget that, if it’s so interesting that you want to look at it all the time, then it’s art.

    OK, and one more thing. . . besides being interesting, “art” also has to be real.

    There are two kinds of real—there’s “real” as in honest-created-from-the-heart-real AND there’s “real” as in original, not-a-copy, not-a-reproduction.

    A poster of Starry Night I can leave. It may be interesting, but it’s just a poster. Starry Night, the original, made me want to stay.

    And look some more.

    Now that’s art.

    Naah, thats your definition of art

    Thats what I mean. Why does that has to be "the" definition if every person on the world has his own definition.

    For me the most important thing to consider something art is that it has to be an expression of human creativity.

    Things like quality or quantity should be no criterion for a thing to be considered art or not imo.

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    I don't get your post nineaxis. The Mona Lisa should be labeled "Painting" considering how you labeled the other things.

    no no, it is art!

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