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R.I.P MJ!

  • Spellbinder
  • June 25, 2009 at 11:17 PM
  • Duff-e
    • July 1, 2009 at 8:49 PM
    • #41

    shitting on pop music is fine but I don't think MJ falls into that same generic pop genre...dude was a force...even if you don't like his music, videos like thriller and beat it are hard to top.

    I mean who watches beat it and doesn't want a leather jacket, baseball bat or butterfly knife for christmas.

  • Skjalg
    • July 2, 2009 at 8:35 AM
    • #42

    Hahah this is really fun to read.

    Most of the people here who go on and on about MJ sucking donkey balls because his music sucks or it is something you've heard before, is like hearing someone talk about video games telling me that quake is "meh" because he's played so many shooters and playing quake now didnt bring him anything new.

    If you had been into music, which I doubt you are, then you'd realize what this is all about. He created modern day pop music. Every pop artist that has come after him has copied him in some way or another. Stating that his music mediocre is borderline ridicilous and you clearly dont know what you're talking about.

  • Steppenwolf
    • July 2, 2009 at 8:56 AM
    • #43

    He created modern day mainstream pop music. Nobody ever considered modern mainstream pop as particularely good music (except for the fanboys and fangirls). He is no ABBA. Most of his songs are not very catchy, especialy his later work. His music is also missing the timelesness. Stuff like Thriller or Beat It is no music that you could cover or remix and would instantly create a new charts hit.

    I mean he was nearly forgotten already by the public before he died. What we see now is a hype. People get nostalgic, remember the good times they had in the 80's. And they forget for now why they didn't like him anymore. Soon he will be remembered as the child molesting freak again and his grave will become an morbid attraction like the catacombs of paris.

  • Minos
    • July 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM
    • #44
    Quote from Steppenwolf

    He created modern day mainstream pop music. Nobody ever considered modern mainstream pop as particularely good music (except for the fanboys and fangirls). He is no ABBA. Most of his songs are not very catchy, especialy his later work. His music is also missing the timelesness. Stuff like Thriller or Beat It is no music that you could cover or remix and would instantly create a new charts hit.I mean he was nearly forgotten already by the public before he died. What we see now is a hype. People get nostalgic, remember the good times they had in the 80's. And they forget for now why they didn't like him anymore. Soon he will be remembered as the child molesting freak again and his grave will become an morbid attraction like the catacombs of paris.

    It was never proven he molested those kids...

  • Skjalg
    • July 2, 2009 at 2:09 PM
    • #45
    Quote from Steppenwolf

    He created modern day mainstream pop music. Nobody ever considered modern mainstream pop as particularely good music (except for the fanboys and fangirls). He is no ABBA. Most of his songs are not very catchy, especialy his later work. His music is also missing the timelesness. Stuff like Thriller or Beat It is no music that you could cover or remix and would instantly create a new charts hit.I mean he was nearly forgotten already by the public before he died. What we see now is a hype. People get nostalgic, remember the good times they had in the 80's. And they forget for now why they didn't like him anymore. Soon he will be remembered as the child molesting freak again and his grave will become an morbid attraction like the catacombs of paris.

    He is no ABBA, thats right, he is way bigger than them. But you are right in his later work not beeing so good but you can say the same thing about abba

    His music both founded the modern day mainstream pop and outlived all of it since its still great music. (alot of Mj's music is used as party music to this date, cant really say the same thing about abba.)

    And lol, yeah noone has never covered MJ and gotten instant recognition if they did it well. [Blocked Image: https://migrationtest.mapcore.org/public/style_emoticons/default/mapcore_smilies/emot_shakehead.gif]

    Beat it with fallout bous

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  • Steppenwolf
    • July 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM
    • #46

    I have never heard of Fallout Boy and i only remember that Alien Ant Farm cover because it was all over the radio during the time of the 9/11 attacks. Of course there are always exceptions of the rules but in general i don't think MJ's music is very timeless and cover worthy. He only had a nice voice as a kid and after that it was all over the place vocals and beats. Without the big show, costumes and dancing he never would have had that huge impact on pop culture. The music was only a part of his success.

  • Duff-e
    • July 2, 2009 at 3:11 PM
    • #47
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    Without the big show, costumes and dancing he never would have had that huge impact on pop culture.

    lol...cause you didn't just describe abba right there...and I agree MJ is much bigger than ABBA

    steppenwolf obviously you don't like his music but I think you need to step back and read what you're writing. MJ pretty much ran a decade of mainstream culture. we're not talking britney spears mainstream culture which is 16 and under or kanye west which has a pretty specific audience/demographic. think about how diverse the pool of artists that cite MJ as an influence are.

    not your style, fine, but come on.

  • Steppenwolf
    • July 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM
    • #48

    It's funny how peoples perception of MJ has changed now that he is dead. Don't tell me you guys were MJ fans all the fucking time

    One week ago nobody here would have bothered to defend him and his music. When he said he would give 50 concerts in london everybody was laughing and the media was making fun of him. Now he is dead and the media is trying to make the next Elvis out of him. You know why? Because it sells. It's just a hype. Don't believe it.

    And ABBA, well they are considered the greatest pop band of all time and they are not even dead yet. When people think of them they think of their music. Ask people about MJ and i bet a lot of people think about his nose first, or him being a freak who probably molested kids.

  • 2d-chris
    • July 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM
    • #49

    Right - but when somebody is dead people reflect on a life time not what hat or nose he is wearing today. The alligations mean nothing compared to his contribution to music and that is why people "change" there opinion.

    Abba? ahaha, sure they might be the biggest "band" ever but micheal jackson was not a band, he was a solo artist who had a band which constantly changed.

  • Duff-e
    • July 2, 2009 at 5:22 PM
    • #50

    You should really read what you're writing. No one is telling you to like MJ....but to suggest that the death of the 4th highest selling act in the world of all time is some "media fad" is pretty ridiculous.

    The guy is versatile enough to let a 4 year old dance to and be on a GTA soundtrack. You don't think people think of ABBA the way you do of MJ? It's just preference deal with it.

    http://%7boption%7d I mean come on.

  • Buddy
    • July 2, 2009 at 5:23 PM
    • #51
    Quote from Steppenwolf

    It's funny how peoples perception of MJ has changed now that he is dead. Don't tell me you guys were MJ fans all the fucking time One week ago nobody here would have bothered to defend him and his music. When he said he would give 50 concerts in london everybody was laughing and the media was making fun of him. Now he is dead and the media is trying to make the next Elvis out of him. You know why? Because it sells. It's just a hype. Don't believe it.

    I think you should speak for yourself. No offence though

  • Steppenwolf
    • July 2, 2009 at 5:26 PM
    • #52

    Honestly i don't care about the whole thing and i got way too much involved in an silly argument here thanks to me having too much time.

    Only time will tell how he will be perceived in the end by the wide public.

    Peace

  • Duff-e
    • July 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM
    • #53

    lol he's been a popular solo artist since the early 1970's. I think 40 years is a respectable time period to become a pop icon.

  • Section_Ei8ht
    • July 2, 2009 at 5:41 PM
    • #54
    Quote from DUFFY

    http://%7boption%7d I mean come on.

    That made me want to watch West Side Story.

  • Grinwhrl
    • July 2, 2009 at 5:54 PM
    • #55

    I'm not a fan of MJ himself or his lifestyle choices, mostly created by media overblow, but his music will always be great.

    As far as before and after his death, this song/video sums up the truth in my opinion!

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  • Sindwiller
    • July 2, 2009 at 6:45 PM
    • #56
    Quote from Steppenwolf

    He was more impressive as a dancer then as a musician imo.

    Quote

    It's funny how peoples perception of MJ has changed now that he is dead. Don't tell me you guys were MJ fans all the fucking time One week ago nobody here would have bothered to defend him and his music. When he said he would give 50 concerts in london everybody was laughing and the media was making fun of him. Now he is dead and the media is trying to make the next Elvis out of him. You know why? Because it sells. It's just a hype. Don't believe it.

  • kleinluka
    • July 2, 2009 at 8:03 PM
    • #57

    BTW the boy that claimed MJ molested him confessed that he lied and that his father told him to accuse Michael Jackson so they'd get rich.

    GG.

  • Sentura
    • July 2, 2009 at 11:30 PM
    • #58

    he's already been immortalized, let's just give it a rest with all the weeping.

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  • Minos
    • July 3, 2009 at 12:40 AM
    • #59
    Quote from Sentura

    he's already been immortalized, let's just give it a rest with all the weeping.[Blocked Image: http://wowallogy.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/kleenex2.jpg]

    judgement

  • Skjalg
    • July 3, 2009 at 8:00 AM
    • #60
    Quote from Steppenwolf

    It's funny how peoples perception of MJ has changed now that he is dead. Don't tell me you guys were MJ fans all the fucking time One week ago nobody here would have bothered to defend him and his music. When he said he would give 50 concerts in london everybody was laughing and the media was making fun of him. Now he is dead and the media is trying to make the next Elvis out of him. You know why? Because it sells. It's just a hype. Don't believe it.

    And ABBA, well they are considered the greatest pop band of all time and they are not even dead yet. When people think of them they think of their music. Ask people about MJ and i bet a lot of people think about his nose first, or him being a freak who probably molested kids.

    I was easily a fan of him before he died, I even tried getting tickets to his last shows but didnt have the cash for the ebay tickets. Theres never a homeparty I go to where they dont play at least one Michael Jackson song and I didn't think his music needed defending a week ago. I honestly believed that it was a universal though that his music was made of pure awesome, hell I was never that impressed by the dancing.

    ABBA is not considered the greatest pop band of all time by, that is The beatles (they sold more too). I also think its funny how you dig into the media hype now about his death (what is there to not believe btw?) but claim that he probably molested kids (like that wasnt a media frenzy/hype).

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