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Satyre's photos thread

  • Satyre
  • February 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM
  • Satyre
    • February 20, 2009 at 5:06 PM
    • #21

    Links edited

    Quote from dux

    Do you reduce these in scale in photoshop?

    Yes

    Quote from dux

    Clicking the enlarged version of the 1st shot it looks quite blurry.

    I think that's because of the upload compression...

  • Satyre
    • February 21, 2009 at 11:49 AM
    • #22

    Another one

    [Blocked Image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3647/3295183133_d0f32a9abf.jpg]

    Click to enlarge

    I think it's a little bit short of contrasts...

  • ⌐■_■
    • February 21, 2009 at 2:26 PM
    • #23

    amazing, man! :megaman:

  • Sentura
    • February 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM
    • #24

    so how about those desktop resolution sizes for the first set?

  • Satyre
    • February 26, 2009 at 6:53 PM
    • #25

    Ok, I'm working on it tomorrow...

    By the way, another shot. I'm a little bit running out of inspiration in my poor country... I wish I had the sea next to my home

    [Blocked Image: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3668/champnbmag.th.jpg]

    Click to enlarge

  • JeanPaul
    • February 27, 2009 at 8:31 AM
    • #26

    Your images are great but could be a lot better with some stronger photoshop work

  • Satyre
    • March 1, 2009 at 2:13 PM
    • #27

    Thank you.

    What do you refer to? Improve colors, contrasts, tones...? If you have any tips for me, I'll be pleased to know them, I'm far from professionalism into that.

    [Blocked Image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3314812366_0665c9ecaf.jpg]

    Click to enlarge

    Retouch: contrasts enhancement

    My first vertorama (2 shots)

    [Blocked Image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3316283782_f476d28f83.jpg]

    Click to enlarge

    Retouch: contrasts enhancement

    A vertical panorama (2 shots)

    [Blocked Image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3314186611_32abb5866a.jpg]

    Click to enlarge

    Retouch: contrasts enhancement

  • e-freak
    • March 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM
    • #28

    while i like the motives and the grey-development on these photos, i can't help but think that the horizon is much too high, and there's far too few sky in these.

    while it partially works on the "vertoramas", the sea scene could sure use alot more sky. the reflections give the very same picture information but due to the shift of the horizontal line into the upper third of the picture it really feels constricted, which is conflicting with the motive and the lighting in the shot.

  • JeanPaul
    • March 5, 2009 at 8:57 AM
    • #29
    Quote from Satyre

    Thank you.What do you refer to? Improve colors, contrasts, tones...? If you have any tips for me, I'll be pleased to know them, I'm far from professionalism into that.

    For starters, stop using the HDR technique NOW

    But editing images is not all about contrast. Play with the colors, try adding in more highlights, try adding more saturation to certain colors, etc etc. But if there is one thing that helps the most its burning and dodging.

  • Satyre
    • March 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM
    • #30

    Hey

    Quote from e-freak

    while i like the motives and the grey-development on these photos, i can't help but think that the horizon is much too high, and there's far too few sky in these.

    Don't sure the horizon is too high, I used the rule of thirds, with 2/3 of ground and 1/3 of sky and by placing trees near of the second third. I kept a lot of ground because I find it very dynamic and it leads ours eyes toward the trees, I think.

    Quote from e-freak

    while it partially works on the "vertoramas", the sea scene could sure use alot more sky. the reflections give the very same picture information but due to the shift of the horizontal line into the upper third of the picture it really feels constricted, which is conflicting with the motive and the lighting in the shot.

    Indeed, I haven't seen that... thanks : )

    Quote from JeanPaul

    But editing images is not all about contrast. Play with the colors, try adding in more highlights, try adding more saturation to certain colors, etc etc. But if there is one thing that helps the most its burning and dodging.

    A little bit like these photos? I've some difficulties to do that. I've not been into retouch for long and I use photoshop only... I guess others softwares are needed such as adobe lightroom to do that, don't you?

    [Blocked Image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3599/3335665681_929d6d6603.jpg]

    Click to enlarge

    [Blocked Image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/3331074095_05f0265eab.jpg]

    Click to enlarge

    Edit:

    I've just read your thread, I partially agree with you about HDR... this is overdone and often ugly with oversaturated colors because everyone do that without experience just because of HDRi is The mode, and lots of tutorials are done by shitty people. My HDR images aren't good too, I admit... I'm learning to improve my skill, I hope.

    On the other hand, with a good skill into HDR, certain photos are absolutely breathtaking. Check out the link above.

    That said, it's just a matter of taste.

  • JeanPaul
    • March 9, 2009 at 3:50 AM
    • #31

    Well I guess you can say I meant what you are thinking in terms of that link you posted but that guy's images are way overdone. It needs to be more subtle and less apparent that they were edited in photoshop. If the first thing you think when you see an image is "wow that was surely edited in photoshop" then its not a particularly good image. (unless of course its a humorous photoshop )

    Let me give you an example from a photo I took:

    Original photograph

    (the one that came out of my camera after a few RAW adjustments like fill light for some of the shadows and some slight exposure adjustment for brighter and more vivid tones)

    [Blocked Image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3345/3340513112_c225b95b60_o.jpg]

    And then the photo with my photoshop adjustments

    [Blocked Image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3630/3330552282_ac1398b71c_o.jpg]

    Whether you like my edits or not, its still a lot more interesting of a picture to look at. Oh and for future reference, dont post original "pre-edited" images, ever

  • skdr
    • March 10, 2009 at 9:28 PM
    • #32

    Can you post your adjustment settings for everyone to see, JP? Cheers

  • dux
    • March 10, 2009 at 11:22 PM
    • #33
    Quote from Pericolos0

    i like the original more honestly, more color, more energy! Fits with the busy scene

  • JeanPaul
    • March 11, 2009 at 4:58 AM
    • #34
    Quote from skdr

    Can you post your adjustment settings for everyone to see, JP? Cheers

    I posted the original, and that was quite a bit to share. This would be going to far

    I can tell you though that editing individual colors in a curves layer helps a lot. Also, using different layer styles also helps a lot.

    Quote from Pericolos0

    i like the original more honestly, more color, more energy! Fits with the busy scene

    Then you are the guys that think having un-edited images as final products is okay, I guess not everyone can be a photographer

    Honestly, the original has gross non-complimentary colors, I really cant see how you think this

  • Skjalg
    • March 11, 2009 at 2:40 PM
    • #35

    Sometimes the imperfect is perfect to the human eye, and the other way around

  • DvS
    • March 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
    • #36
    Quote from JeanPaul

    Then you are the guys that think having un-edited images as final products is okay, I guess not everyone can be a photographer

    Such arrogance

    Not trying to flame or anything, just feel that sort of stuff needs to be called out.

    Just because you've posted some cool photos doesn't really give you the right to judge what makes people photographers. Art is in the eye of the beholder and any attempt of convincing people otherwise is an act of snobbery.

    Anyway, I looked at all the photos in this thread and I really like them, though I do agree with previous posters about putting more sky into the vertical ones.

  • dux
    • March 11, 2009 at 5:14 PM
    • #37
    Quote from JeanPaul

    Then you are the guys that think having un-edited images as final products is okay, I guess not everyone can be a photographer

    Yeah, and an attitude like yours is not going to get you very far, either. I like you JP, but christ, you do come out with some absurd shit sometimes.

  • e-freak
    • March 11, 2009 at 6:19 PM
    • #38

    well he's right in so far that the photographer must have a pretty clear image in mind of what he want to achieve, when he's going to shot the image as close as possible and later on develops the image to come even closer to what he's got in mind. That's always been the trick about photography, manual or digital - the medium changed, the processing didn't and still makes a snapshot into an artwork.

  • dux
    • March 11, 2009 at 6:41 PM
    • #39

    No one said anything about un edited pics as final images. The original needs some tweaking yes, but his version made it looks somewhat lifeless in a busy environment.

  • JeanPaul
    • March 11, 2009 at 7:04 PM
    • #40

    Yeah I can agree, it was a badly worded response that sounded incredibly arrogant.

    BUT, my point (a badly worded one) still remains. NEVER, EVER leave an image unedited and call it final. NEVER. A stronger image will always come from some post work however little editing you put into it. If two people take the same exact image and one is edited well and the other is not, guess who will have a better, more promotable image....

    Sorry if I sounded like an asshole, I didnt mean to.

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