Deus Ex 3

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Just finished it. The end section was really bad Decent game, worth the money but not overly amazing for me. Sorry to be a donny downer.

you don't like a game i like, i am now entitled to flame your ass back to hell

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Just finished it. The end section was really bad Decent game, worth the money but not overly amazing for me. Sorry to be a donny downer.

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Annoying. I plunk down 5000 futurebucks to help an annoying person in china, and then the quest is finished, and I went back to the annoying person to give them the good news, and they've vanished from the face of the earth.

Maybe she ran away? Maybe she was killed by the Harvesters?

Video Games. The greatest story telling medium since concept albums.

Finished it today, taking about 20 hours of my time overall. I found the game thoroughly enjoyable, and I especially liked the fact that the story was intellectual and covered some interesting themes. The only thing that really annoyed the hell out of me were a) boss battles (especially the one at the TV station. Jesus fuck I raged so goddamn much) and b) god awful facial animations. Seriously, Valve to me are the only studio that make completely convincing facial animations.

I'm also glad it wasn't a terrible PC port thanks to tutorial videos where the VO references the keyboard and mouse, the ability to change the FOV and quick saves everywhere. AMAZING. Why can't all games have these? The only downer is the fact that for some reason changing the AA to anything less than high causes the game to spout some crap about my display driver being naughty. >_>

I just finished it too,

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the end level lacked something, those raged workers are just not fun to fight and it seemed like half the map was missing stuff to do. Giant empty areas! End boss fight was prob the only semi half decent one in the game, also felt like the driving force of you going there was kinda forgotten. You find the chick then she just disappears ;P

Overall I really enjoyed the game, I'll be playing it through again for sure ...

I finished it during the weekend.

The ending did feel a bit rushed, because those raging zombie-enemies were no fun to kill at all. Considering the story and build up then it actually was one of the first times I've played a good fps where killing wasn't fun at all. It actually left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Which I guess is real kudos to the story guys on this game, but sucks ass from a game play perspective.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09 ... utsourced/

Makes perfect sense. Hell, listening to what he's saying, he's obviously aware of the potential issues with doing boss fight for this kind of game, yet managed to fail in everything he's saying they achieved.

lol, true.

It's amazing how bad their boss fights are, yet they make a huge fuss out of it.

You can tell that on paper the bosses had very good ideas, but very badly executed and badly tested.

Theorycrafting ftw.

There is one thing about DXHR's bossfights I REALLY like: The shit they scatter around the arenas for supplies in case you went into the boss fight weak and pitiful don't despawn after the fight like they do in 99.9% of games with boss fights and items in boss fight arenas. You can focus on killing the boss and restock AFTER. That's great.

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There is one thing about DXHR's bossfights I REALLY like: The shit they scatter around the arenas for supplies in case you went into the boss fight weak and pitiful don't despawn after the fight like they do in 99.9% of games with boss fights and items in boss fight arenas. You can focus on killing the boss and restock AFTER. That's great.

fair point, but they could have had that sort of fail safe and still make it possible for the boss fights to be done in different ways (e.g. stealth way).

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Theorycrafting ftw.

This.

also, the video is a great example of:

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Makes perfect sense. Hell, listening to what he's saying, he's obviously aware of the potential issues with doing boss fight for this kind of game, yet managed to fail in everything he's saying they achieved.

wow. who's idea was it to not only outsource it to a guy who says "i'm a shooter guy" and then follows it with "i don't know anything about the deus ex world", but then to actually implement their offal into the game..

i guess someone got a nice payoff for setting up that contract.

I honestly can't understand why it was outsourced at all, as if they weren't capable of making a few decent bosses — I mean I've never heard of something like boss fights being outsourced. And even if it did happen you'd then ask: why fucking them? Some retarded producer or something doing a favour?

i remember the giant robots in the first deus ex as the de facto "bosses". they were pretty deadly, but you could disable them in a number of ways. i really missed them in this game.

EDIT: actually he contradicts himself in the very end. "YOU gotta get into their flow". bitch, this is deus ex. i don't get into your flow, you let me pick which flow i want.

Spasticated. I'd love to know who it was who gave it to these guys. Not grips fault, they were given the stuff and they did it, hardly going to say no really are they? But the boss fights were the same as having a hair in my soup.

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it actually was one of the first times I've played a good fps where killing wasn't fun at all. It actually left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Which I guess is real kudos to the story guys on this game, but sucks ass from a game play perspective.

I actually liked that change--I suddenly

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had a reason to play non-lethally, having been mostly killing people up to that point. After the first handful of guys in Panchaea, I decided that Jensen wasn't the kind of guy to shoot these people who, through no fault of their own, were now raving mad and attacking me. So (with a lot of difficulty, since I lacked the arsenal for it) I avoided or dealt with all the enemies there non-lethally.

But then I chose the button to destroy Panchaea, so I guess they died anyway

Alright finally played through it, clocked in about 26 hours.

Storytelling wise I felt like the pacing was off sometimes. They threw a bone at you plotwise, then fed it to you in small chunks even more and then when the big reveal comes it's super apparent. Some gameplay sections in between those chunks are pretty long so that didn't help either It's sort of a nice story and I like the morality in it, but a lot of it is not new and was predictable. So yeah, by the time the cut scenes were thrown at you I couldn't enjoy it as much because it was so obvious.

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Eliza being an AI was very obvious at one point, I don't know what exactly gave it away but I wished they would've just kept it for when you actually met her and boom... surprise. Hacking the bio-chips to take control over people with augs... Very "I Robot" ish, they didn't really have to do much to point into this direction so again, no surprise. And then the Illuminati, seriously wtf was that about Was a bit of a disappointment.

Overall it's still very nice though, definitely better than most game stories and the execution is still very decent despite what I said earlier. It still sets itself quite a bit apart because of the whole augmentation technology and the morality issues accompanied with it, really enjoyed watching all the endings. They all had some good points!

Gameplay wise, some dull parts towards the end because you have almost everything unlocked and it becomes a walk in the park. I played stealthy all the way through except for the end with the

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crazy augs, just too many of them and couldn't be arsed to go through them quietly, just wanted to finish by then

. Some cool things here 'n there, the conversation choices were pretty sweet.

Might be GOTY for me, it had its flaws but overall was definitely a very good experience.

Oh and don't know if it's been said yet but the 2nd boss:

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Tase her with the shock rifle or whatever it's called = stunned. Then walk close, shotguns to the head. Tase again, shotgun -head. Was pretty lame once I found it out

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When Pritchet said she was in office 404, I couldn't stop laughing, thats so fucking corney. Oh and the secret lair she broadcasts from was 802-11, really! Really!