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Let pupils abondon spelling rules

  • dux
  • September 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM
  • dux
    • September 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM
    • #1

    I seriously hope this is a joke.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 698949.ece

  • Sindwiller
    • September 13, 2008 at 3:07 PM
    • #2

    That's a known problem of the English language, which confuses a lot of people, but saying it would hold back children is just short-minded. After all, your brain's flexible as hell as a child - and the educator's job is to fill the void with stuff correctly. Chinese pupils for example, too, have to struggle with an a lot more complex scripture, with, like, 5 symbols with the same pronunciation but having different meanings. Yet, they manage to handle it. In the end, the English orthography is just memorizing a variety of ways to write a word and then memorizing the correct one. Hooray!

  • Psy
    • September 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM
    • #3

    That is most retarded thing I have ever read.

  • e-freak
    • September 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
    • #4

    -snip-

  • Sentura
    • September 13, 2008 at 4:26 PM
    • #5

    before you start judging it, let's look at the point of it first: basically this academic wants the english language simplified so that every word can be spelled from the phonetic description rather than the system that is set up now; what with certain irregularities and borrowed words. per se this isn't a bad solution, since i know some people in the UK have severe problems learning their own, let alone other languages. this would remove large amounts of error margin due to everyone just listening to the word in their head, rather than dissecting it in a dictionary or equal. i'd support this decision if it were true for all languages, but i guess even then you have to start somewhere.

  • dux
    • September 13, 2008 at 4:35 PM
    • #6

    It's fine if you want to change or evolve a language. To do so in order to aid those unable to normally succeed in the same way that everyone else can, then we should be able to do so for every other subject. It's why we call our classes "English and Language Arts" not "English as a Communicative Medium." We shouldn't simply bypass established rules and laws, or standards (as arbitrary as they may be) in honour of the laziness or "inability" of children of this generation.

  • kleinluka
    • September 13, 2008 at 8:04 PM
    • #7

    To put a dent in this guy's logic seeing how he's using "time wasted on teaching children how to spell" as a reason....if the rules were to change wouldn't it also be a big waste of time to re-learn how to spell english incorrectly, re-print all the books with tard-english, teachers having to re-learn spelling the wrong way simply because some kids are too retarded to learn how to put an apostrophe behind certain words.

    Give me a fucking break.

  • FrieChamp
    • September 13, 2008 at 8:42 PM
    • #8

    Isn't this similar to what happened in Germany a few years back? I learnt pronouncing certain words, use punctuation one way and then the government introduced a new orthography which is supposed to make it easier for kids to learn it. For example the borrowed word "portemonnaie" (french word for wallet) that is common use in German has been changed to "portmonee". Or the infamous constellations of 3 letters ("Schifffahrt") that were impossible before. Harmless? Maybe for kids who learnt it from the get go, but it sucks when you are told in 10th class that this is not the way you are supposed to write anymore. The original way is inccorect, thankfully there was a gliding time where both orthographies were legit during exams AS LONG AS you stuck to one throughout. Honestly I've never bothered to wrap my head around the new way of spelling until today. There was also a huge controversy in the press, certain papers refused to adapt to the new style and there was a time when it almost looked like everyone would dismiss the idea and just fall back to the old system, but I guess it prevailed. I still think it was a waste of time and work, when this country had a lot more important things to deal with.

  • Steppenwolf
    • September 13, 2008 at 10:38 PM
    • #9

    I think its complete bullshit. English is probably the easiest language to learn. Ask some kids in china or japan about their languages :roll:

    Or even in europe. Like russian for example with their countless grammar rules. I learned this language in school for 6 years and couldn't even have a basic conversation with someone from russia

    And its funny that they bring finnish as an example which is as far as i know one of the hardest languages to learn.

  • Sindwiller
    • September 13, 2008 at 11:39 PM
    • #10
    Quote

    To put a dent in this guy's logic seeing how he's using "time wasted on teaching children how to spell" as a reason....if the rules were to change wouldn't it also be a big waste of time to re-learn how to spell english incorrectly, re-print all the books with tard-english, teachers having to re-learn spelling the wrong way simply because some kids are too retarded to learn how to put an apostrophe behind certain words.

    Word.

  • Ginger Lord
    • September 14, 2008 at 8:20 AM
    • #11

    This borders on becoming far too American.

  • Bic-B@ll
    • September 14, 2008 at 8:52 AM
    • #12
    Quote from Ginger Lord

    This borders on becoming far too American.

    :roll:

  • dux
    • September 14, 2008 at 9:00 AM
    • #13

    Thinking about it this would sure help George Dubya a great amount.

  • Spellbinder
    • September 14, 2008 at 9:38 AM
    • #14

    They allready did this in swedish school aswell. Like the word "mig" (me in english) many pupils wrote "mej" which is wrong but they change it to correct, theres a few other words aswell but i dont know which ones and don't care really since i learned how to spell and have quit school a long time ago.

  • Sindwiller
    • September 14, 2008 at 10:43 AM
    • #15

    Languages evolve but just because a bunch of educators are incapable to teach things... :-| Oh, whatever.

  • 2d-chris
    • September 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM
    • #16

    English is fucked up, for every "rule" there is an exception. Far as I'm concered, writing is only a form of communication, if a point can be expressed clearly with bad grammar or spelling, who the hell cares. People often lose sight of the purpose of something in search for perfection

    Some people consider themselves above others beause they can write or read better, shame on them.

  • Sentura
    • September 14, 2008 at 8:16 PM
    • #17
    Quote from 2d-chris

    English is fucked up, for every "rule" there is an exception. Far as I'm concered, writing is only a form of communication, if a point can be expressed clearly with bad grammar or spelling, who the hell cares. People often lose sight of the purpose of something in search for perfection Some people consider themselves above others beause they can write or read better, shame on them.

    it's such a shame there are so few people that actually grasp this point. then again, humanity would be eons ahead in advancement if we didn't take everything new and unknown with conservative suspicions, and instead focused on viewing long term goals and the abstraction to achieve them.

    i am certain that bureaucracy will be the end of humanity.

  • Sindwiller
    • September 14, 2008 at 10:04 PM
    • #18

    "Hir danjer, no tuch" "Wat u sai" "i sed danjer no tuch, u go shoked to deth"

  • jaboo224
    • September 15, 2008 at 8:32 PM
    • #19

    I speak canadian eh!

    ontopic: this article made me laugh my ass off. This guy has to be joking lol!

  • Taylor
    • September 16, 2008 at 1:43 AM
    • #20

    Why stop there? Let’s start writing in hangul.

    There is an article about this every few months and it never seems to cover that English has weak phonemic orthography because of the different dialects, and how pronunciations change over the years. Writing things down phonetically doesn’t really solve this, and English doesn’t have a phonemic alphabet. Of course then there’s rewriting everything, it all seems a bit much to boost up some kids exam grades.

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